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Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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OK--you guys will be the first to hear this one. HOT ROD is throwing the first-ever Pump Gas Drags in 2004, and we think it's the least limiting, most legit street-car shootout yet. No trailers allowed! Complete rules will be posted at hotrod.com in a few weeks, and they will be printed in the January issue of the magazine. So don't take this as official, but here's the gist of it:
- Race will probably be sometime in May in Memphis
- All years, makes, and models are allowed. No dragsters or flopper bodies, and only '34-and-older may be fenderless.
- No limits on weight or cubic inch or heads or induction
- Must be street legal, registered, insured
- Full interiors required
- Entire event must be run on one set of four DOT-legal tires of your choice
- Here's the catch: All cars must be presented for tech with empty gas tanks. HOT ROD will supply 15 gallons of 93-octane unleaded pump gas. No other fuel source or additives are allowed, and we will tech the fuel after the race.
- All competitors will meet at Comp Cams for tech and will be impounded for the night. In the morning, the cars must follow the Comp Cams lead van at least 30 miles to the track and may not drop behind the chase van for any reason. No trailers are allowed to follow the cars and no trailers or support vehicles will be allowed at the track. All the people and equipment you need must be in the car.
- At the track, there's 30 minutes of cool-down. Each car will make three passes down the track, and at the end of the day, the car with the quickest average e.t. wins.
- There will also be awards for Most Legit 11-second car, 10-second car, and so on.
- It's free to enter, but HOT ROD and Comp Cams will select only 50 cars to participate, like an invitational. Entry forms will be in the January HOT ROD, and must be submitted along with photos of the car, the engine, and the interior. Proof of e.t. is also suggested. Entries will be due around the end of the year and cars will be announced around the end of January.
- Every car that passes tech will get a photo in HOT ROD.
Once again, understand that these are not the official rules, and they are not complete. But close enough for you to start thinking about it. Enter as many good Mopars as you can and I promise to make sure they have a good showing. Bring it!
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This sounds very cool, I might actually think about this, would the racing be heads up?
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No--it's not heads up. Cars may run side-by-side, but it doesn't matter. The winner is the car with the lowest average e.t. over three passes, and if there's a tie, then the car with the highest average mph wins. We very much wanted heads-up, but the three-run average helps eliminate guys that can only make one 8-second pass before they blow up. This is a proven method with True Street classes in Pro and Fun Ford.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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I think "full interior" needs to be defined better.
Do the cars need to meet any saftey rules, or is it an outlaw event?
In any case, it sounds like a fun run whatcha brung event!
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Reagrding expected e.t., I'd expect to see at least a high 8-second pass from a turbo car. Whether they can do it more than once is another issue.
Also, to encourage all comers, we will have editors choice awards for some slower, but more realisitally streetable cars. A lot of ink and TV time will come out of this.
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Regarding "full interior" being defined better, you're right. That's why this is just a peek at the rules and not the full thing. Basically it needs front seats, carpet, headliner, door panels, stock dash frame, and the column in the stock location. I'll repeat it: this is just chat, not totally official rules. Trust what is in the magazine.
And, yes, the cars need to be NHRA safety legal for the speeds they are capable of.
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Oh now this sounds like fun..I just might have to get involved..
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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Answer on tires: no limit on size as long as they ar DOT legal. Can be ET Streets or radials as long as they are DOT. Pro Streeters welcome and encouraged.
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How do you think mid to high tens would do?
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- No limits on weight or cubic inch or heads or induction
So, is nitrous legal? I'm assuming it is since turbo's and blower's are legal?
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Squeeze it til it pops, man.
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Squeeze it til it pops, man.
Aw yeah, that's what I'm talking about!!!  So is it legal to swap a burnt rod and piston between runs?  How's about running race gas in the seperate fuel system for the nitrous?
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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Hmmm, the Pro- series has the TRUE STREET class. They are figuring that it may not do as well as expected due to class rules and the lack of car cpounts at the events.
Is this gonna be a 1 time thing or will there be other races through out the summer? Or will that be figured out at a later date?
I guess it's hard to accept how the rules are written and how they affect how a "TRUE" Pro-Street car is built.. I'd like to try it out, but realistically, it'll never happen. For me anyways..
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Big Squeeze: No, you may not run race gas in any way in any container at any time, even when the nitrous is on. And we have a secret for catching you if you do.
Blowfish: I am aware that PRO True Street seems to be in trouble due to car counts (though Fun Ford's similar deal is huge). True Street doesn't have the promotion or mag and TV coverage that our event will, and it's also a hassle to organize within a with a full heads-up event. It's also why we will only stage one event a year and NOT a multi-event series.
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And our rules are far less restrictive.
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The rule will probably read like this:
- Gasoline: The only fuel allowed during competition will be 93-octane unleaded gasoline supplied by HOT ROD magazine after tech inspection. HOT ROD will verify that each car is teched with an empty fuel tank or cell and will supply a maximum of 15 gallons of gas which must sustain the vehicle throughout the cruise, tech inspection, 3 rounds of drag racing, and any driving through the pits or any other time the vehicle is running during the duration of the event. Any competitor caught adding fuel or with a supplemental fuel system will be immediately disqualified. Octane boosters or supplemental fuel additives of any kind are not allowed. Injection into the engine of any substance other than the spec gasoline, water, and nitrous oxide is not allowed.
I warn you once again that this may not be final and only the rules to be printed in the magazine may be considered official.
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Only 15 gallons for the whole event, I hope the cruise is short. Is there a closed hood policy after tech, or can we play with timing and jets and such things? I know the rules are not written in stone yet but how could a high 8 or low 9 sec. car drive 30 miles and still race with only 15 gallons of gas.
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i want to know how you get there with an empty fuel tank??? 
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Just a humble suggestion, but why don't we set up a fund to help out an official Moparts entry?
I'm nominating the Haze and will donate some dough to help out with expenses.
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Some answers to the above:
- You don't have to drive the car to Memphis--you can trailer it. You just can't have a trailer chasing you on the cruise or a truck supporting you at the track.
- We do not have a closed-hood policy yet. So far, we have established a race procedure that means any work you do will probably need to happen in the staging lanes, you probably won't have more than 30 minutes to do it, and you will be DQ'd if you can't come to the line when you are called. Also, any parts and tools need to be carried in the car (but not when it's going down the track).
- How does an 8 second car drive 30 to 50 miles and race three rounds on 15 gallons? That's part of the challenge. Real street cars would have much more range than that. Besides, it would have to get 2 mpg in order to run out of gas on the way to the track.
- How do you get the car there with an empty tank? If you trailer to Memphis, then drain it at home. If you drive it there, then unhook a fuel line and use an electric fuel pump to drain all the fuel into a container, then fire up the car and run the carb and lines dry just to be safe. We will check fuel after the event, so the drier your system the better.
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I've seen enough! Count me in. I cant wait to get the January issue and read about it and send in my application.
I can do 100 miles and three runs on 15 gallons of gas. My high 10 second pass won't win it, but I sure wont break anything doing it.
I'm also in for a few bucks to get the HAZE there..
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Awright!! That's one down. Is this the same car that was on the cover of Muscle?
If you don't already have nitrous, get it. If you do, then pill it up!
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The last Hot Rod Magazine Drags I attended were in Riverside CA in 1965 and I have the pics to prove it.
I'm sure Don Nicholson and Jack Chrisman didn't use pump gas.
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DF, This event has really perked my interest. I love the idea. I found this post from a link from the Team Chevelle site. You can count on me sending my application in when it's available. I would be running my '79 Malibu on drag radials and through full exhaust exiting out the back at a race weight of nearly 3600 lbs. Funny thing is the car gets 8 mpg which is only 1 mpg less than my '89 Suburban with a tbi 454   . Sorry Mopar guys for having a Chevy guy post on your board...but at least I work for a shop that specializes in restoring Mopars  . The owner has a drag race '69 Roadrunner with a stroked 452 as well as a fully restored '68 Roadrunner show car that he drives quite often. We currently have a '69 Charger in the shop I'm doing a bunch of metal work to (real rust bucket) and a '66 Hemi Charger slated to begin work on in the near future. Hey DF, In addition to the awards you mentioned, how about the possibility of an award for the best consistency between the three passes?
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You should go aqwik69, it's only about a 2,000 mile drive one way for ya from cali. I'm sure the $1,000 dollar plus expense would be out weighed after one day of fun and 40 hours of driving time round trip. Here's a map for ya so you don't get lost 
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Hey Freiburger, i know everyones going to have there say in what they think would be a good class
So heres my idea of a good class of racing. Keeps cost down for us guys who dont have the money for a turbo or supercharger or money to go through motors on nitrous and shows whose got a REAL street car. Up to 468 cubic inch motors, bore and stroke of your choice,single carburator, but any intake, factory style heads {no high port, crazy runners with offset rockers and such} for instance a SBC would have to have 23 degree heads but any brand, matirial or CC runner etc with only cleanup and port matching allowed, no porting, no power adders of ANY KIND, relaible on pump gas, cam is limited to a hydraulic or solid grind of your choice,no rollers of any kind, maximum 10" DOT approved tire, mods to the factory wheel well ok, but no tubs of any sort, factory style transmission {richmond 5 speeds and Tremecs, etc are fine, just no pro shifted clutchless, jerico or liberty stuff}, proper safty equipment,no electronics except Ignition box with maximum 2 stage rev limiter and top end retard, Rearend is your choice. Chassis has to be of stock nature, but cal tracs and other bolt ons allowed. Must go on a 50 or so mile highway/side street, cruise with "pace truck" or what ever, must keep up and not drop back for any reason, go straight to track, 1/2 hour for prep time, fill up on 93 like you said and only tools you can have are in your car and go HEADS UP ELIMINATION for 3 classes, Class 1 small block {0ci-408ci} Class2 Big block {396ci-468ci} and Class 3 Unlimited {0ci-468ci}. This in my opinion is a real roots style race, it would get alot more people into racing again and there would be alot of good 11, 10 and maybe 9 second runs and it would be a real deal, not tainted with money, because anymore we just cant afford to run with the big dogs who in turn have big pockets, This is my idea of race rules and i think it very well describes most of the Hot Street cars that i actually concider to be street cars, it makes it affordable to get into the sport and be very competitive. What do you think?
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Awright!! That's one down. Is this the same car that was on the cover of Muscle?
If you don't already have nitrous, get it. If you do, then pill it up!
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David, Funny you should mention n2o. No, it doesn't have a bottle, but it will have to have one if I go. Yes, its the car from July '03 Mopar Muscle. Maybe I can get it to 10 flat on a Sniper 125 shot?
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Hey Unlawfl--125? Dude: 250! Actually, 150-175 should be reliable for high 9s.
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David, if the motor was scienced out for nitrous I would let it fly. Trust me! But, it isn't, and will have to run on the same fuel system. I'm definately not a nitrous guy, but will bolt a kit on for the event if selected, just for "giggles".. Pun intended.
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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech. Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking. 
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is this another contest that mandates 92 octane, or will 93 amoco or 94 sunoco be allowed?
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is this another contest that mandates 92 octane, or will 93 amoco or 94 sunoco be allowed?
well the EM engine would be happy to have 93 in it , and DF hopefully you don't bring that piss they try to pass as fuel from cali ...
sorry for the redundant questions .
dan is your r/t nhra legal with the 470 ? i'll start building the 'glide i just picked up ????
john, i never caged the car. they just kick me off the track when i go too fast
i think i'll pass on another contest for awhile. let the chevy's go and be embarrassed by the imports, LOL. i really think it will take a solid 7 second car to be competitive. we have a number of them in this area. unfortunately, the quickest of the bunch that i know of is an import running low 7.50's from the pompano beach area.
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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech.
Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking.
Hmm and how is it I wouldnt get by tech? With a cage installed to let me go to 9.99 and a fire suit,gloves,helmet and harness. Did I miss something? So is it because I have a new car I am a wanna be?
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I think there should be a minimum weight requirement...say 3200 lbs. Most true street cars are going to be about that weight (minimum).
Personally, I'd like to see the race done on a N/A, no power adder format, but that's just me.
When I first saw this thread, my initial thoughts were that the quickest cars would be in the low 10 or high 9 second range, but after giving it some thought and seeing who and what is out there, I have no doubts that you'll see low 9 and even 8 second passes with power adders.
Knowing that fact, my N/A lil rat will likely be outclassed in this competition.
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A few answers:
- Fuel will be 93 octane, not California gas, and will be supplied for free by HOT ROD, COMP Cams, and the fuel sponsor
- Yes, imports are allowed and even encouraged. You're not afraid of them, are you?
- There's no weight minimum currently in the rules. But as I've stated many times, the official rules will be those in the January HOT ROD. Not everything is fully locked in yet.
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Timing is everything... and mine sucks! I can't throw my hat into the ring because my junk's still apart and it's a TBD as to when it will be running again. But it certainly fits the theme of this, being a legit pump-gas street-driven (I should emphasize DRIVEN) car that ran consistent 11.0s and dipped into the 10.9s under good conditions. The new bullet should put the hurt to those times (an extra 50 HP ought to be worth something). My backup engine would be a pretty good platform for an N2O effort, too, even though the chassis isn't 9.99 legal. Oh, well...
BTW, "10secBu" is my old MSTRA nemesis Todd G! Last I heard his wasn't a legal street car (too recent a year to bypass his state's emissions regulations), but maybe that's changed...? And "Bu" doesn't mean Buick, it means Malibu! 
Hey Brad, long time, no chat  .
Yes, the Malibu is completely street legal now. Since the car is now 25 years old, I was able to aquire Marylands "Street Rod" tags which makes the car street legal and emissions exempt.
I made several changes for street duty. First and foremost, I took the drag type mufflers/exhaust off and replaced it with a 3 1/2" in/3" out Dr. Gas X-pipe leading into a pair of 20" long Dynomax welded UltraFlow (largest case they offer) mufflers. The exaust terminated in a pair of 3" tail pipes I custom fabbed to go over the rear axle and exit behind the rear tires...no small feat with the stock suspension pieces and the Wolfe anti-roll bar taking up most of the available space.
I then had to install a NASCAR style oil cooler since the block is filled. The oil temps are now inline with where they should be...also switched to Mobil1 synthetic oil.
Lastly, I had my rear Centerline Convo-Pro wheels widened 1" from 8.5" to 9.5". After they came back, I installed a pair of BFG drag radials in the 325/50-15 size. Oh yea, I swapped the 4.56 gears out for 4.10's since I went from a 30" tall slick to a 28" tall DOT tire...keeps the rpms in check.
Best runs in race trim on a 9 x 30 radial slick were 10.66 @ 125 with a 1.47 60'. Best run (only 4 passes thus far) in true street trim on DR's and full exhaust is 10.96 @ 121 with 1.52 60'.
I have one more DOT race (MSRA sanctioning body) this Sunday at 75/80. After that I want to sneak over to Cecil and see what the car will do at a good track in good air in full street trim.
Brad, you STILL ain't got that Challenger back together??? What's the hold up? Don't say your new child as I now have two, am a full time Mr. Mom and still find time/funds to play with the car  .
If you have time, slip out to 75/80 this Sunday and chat awhile  .
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i really think it will take a solid 7 second car to be competitive.
Na...I don`t think so....While i`ll not deny the fact that there are most likely several sub 8 second cars that might be able to pull this off....I have to wonder just how many of them could do it on "pump", make the drive to the track and in the imports case, make 3 consecutive passes without breaking something.....My guess is it`s gonna take 9.30`s to 10.0`s to be in the "show". If you take 100 people and ask them their defination of a "street" car your gonna get 100 different answers...but the level it takes to get into the 8`s and lower is pushing a very thin line on a "really" streetable car..one that can be driven more than 20 or so miles, get on the interstate and stay with traffic,not overheat while sitting in said traffic...blah blah blah..
Maybe i`m wrong and if so i`ll be the first one to stand up and say so...But I just don`t see it happening.
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you might be right. understand that i see/work on 650HP toyota's all the time with twin turbo's on pump gas. couple that with the weight advantage and you have a pretty fast ride. if you think 10's will take the crown, go for it... afterwardss you might just be 
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OK, where did all the enginemasters motor parts go? Time for a Moparts entry!! 
still in my basement , who has a street legal car that is lo 10 , hi 9 (on street tires??) capable and will except a big block ??? i'm serious ... of course i should speak to the guy that owns the heads ...
suppose i could get my m code dart together ????
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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech.
Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking.
Hmm and how is it I wouldnt get by tech? With a cage installed to let me go to 9.99 and a fire suit,gloves,helmet and harness. Did I miss something? So is it because I have a new car I am a wanna be?
If it is NHRA legal I have no problem with it. My point was there are ALOT of cars out there running big numbers in the street, but would never be allowed to make a pass at a NHRA track becuse of no cage, harness, battery shut off, etc.....
Scared of imports? Naaah, just curious as there are some fast sport compacts out there.
Nice chip on your shoulder there. Now I remember why I like Mopar guys so much.
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RACE DATES CONFIRMED!!!!! As of today, COMP Cams has locked in Pump Gas Drags race dates. We got a weekend after all! Tech at Comp Cams: Friday, April 30 Drive to track and race: Saturday, May 1 Rain dates: May 2 and 3 Be there. DF
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Hmmm, I have flat top pistons .018-.020 in the hole and I'm right at 10.9-11.0 compression with Aluminum E-heads, I've been running 50% cam2 for safety but I wonder if I really need it. This motor is fairly mild and I've done plenty of street driving with no problem. If I could port these E-heads over the winter I think it could be a decent contender in the 9.90 area, w/o juice. I haven't had the car in good air yet and it goes 10.20's-10.30's on DOT tires very consistantly. I'm gonna keep an eye on this event.....
By the way, I think it's pretty cool that guys from other forums and car makes are visiting this thread.
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How about adding difficulty slightly? Make it three back to back runs that must be completed in ten minutes, and take the average of the three?
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How about adding difficulty slightly? Make it three back to back runs that must be completed in ten minutes, and take the average of the three?
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Don't forget that the HOT ROD staff will be selecting the 50 cars that will race. Therefore we can eliminate the stuff that is obviously bogus. Like full race cars. Obviously there will still be plenty that push the limits.
I've been through trying to write rules to define what a "street car" is, and it's not possible. Too many people have too many ideas. So we'll decide for ourselves. Like that judge said about porn, "I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it." Same goes for "street cars."
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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech.
Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking.
Hmm and how is it I wouldnt get by tech? With a cage installed to let me go to 9.99 and a fire suit,gloves,helmet and harness. Did I miss something? So is it because I have a new car I am a wanna be?
If it is NHRA legal I have no problem with it. My point was there are ALOT of cars out there running big numbers in the street, but would never be allowed to make a pass at a NHRA track becuse of no cage, harness, battery shut off, etc.....
Scared of imports? Naaah, just curious as there are some fast sport compacts out there.
Nice chip on your shoulder there. Now I remember why I like Mopar guys so much.
-James
Nice chip on my shoulder? Hmm I didnt call you a wanna bee and reply like I had something against you from the start. I took that as a chip on your shoulder.
My car runs decent numbers and fits into the category they want. If they choose me you better believe I will be there.
Hmm and I never said anything about different car makes. I have a FORD guy as my mechanic and helper. Done all the work to my car side by side. I have no preferences on what type of car I drive or own. I like things that go fast and respect what other people have done. But hey then again I am just a wanna bee
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Competition is what makes this sport fun boyz....lets just keep it on a "my daddy can beat your daddy" level Now the only exciting events we have on the west coast are earthquakes and listening for detonation from bad gas Somebody bring an "event" to the West Coast.......I'll even hand out the flyers
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Ok, there was never an answer to the question about tube chassis cars. Are tube chassis cars going to be allowed or just stock framed ones? The Haze would be VERY competitive in this competition and we are definitely willing to make the 2000 mile drive, but we HAVE to know if our car is going to pass the sreet car rules. The Haze can drive wherever you send it, it can do it on pump gas, and it can run back to back passes if that is needed, but IS IT A STREET CAR according to the rules? 
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Nice chip on my shoulder? Hmm I didnt call you a wanna bee and reply like I had something against you from the start. I took that as a chip on your shoulder.
My car runs decent numbers and fits into the category they want. If they choose me you better believe I will be there.
Hmm and I never said anything about different car makes. I have a FORD guy as my mechanic and helper. Done all the work to my car side by side. I have no preferences on what type of car I drive or own. I like things that go fast and respect what other people have done. But hey then again I am just a wanna bee
You make a post on a board dedicated to a different brand of car....what did you expect? If I posted at a vette site with a pic of my Coronet, I would expect to get flamed bigger than a funny car explosion. Heck, your screen name practically asks to be flamed.
You may have a nice car, and that is fine but if it doesn't meet these requirements http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ETQuickRef.html might as well not even bother. Running under 10 sec? better have a parachute and a bunch of SFI rated parts on that C5. That's where the wannabe part comes in. You may not fit completely in that category, but the guys that ignore safety for the sake of going faster certainly are wannabes in my books. Sure you can strip down a stock LS1 6 speed Z28, add a big nitrous shot and run some impressive numbers, but it is gonna require alot more than that to pass tech, certified cage, axles, 'chute, master cut off, etc etc.
That being said, I hope Hot Rod runs this shootout as a legit sanctioning body would. That means, if it does not meet the letter of the rules...it doesn't get in, none of this: "well, the rest of the car passes, so you can compete." I hope it will be: Got a stock harmonic balancer on there? good bye. See you when you have an SFI approved one.
Now. I hope that clears stuff up a bit. And the crack about mopar guys....this is from personal experience....no other message board I have been a part of, and this includes many of different makes, have been as supportative and inflamatory as the crew here at moparts.com.
Thanks for stopping by.... AIGF
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You make a post on a board dedicated to a different brand of car....what did you expect? If I posted at a vette site with a pic of my Coronet, I would expect to get flamed bigger than a funny car explosion. Heck, your screen name practically asks to be flamed.
You may have a nice car, and that is fine but if it doesn't meet these requirements http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ETQuickRef.html might as well not even bother. Running under 10 sec? better have a parachute and a bunch of SFI rated parts on that C5. That's where the wannabe part comes in. You may not fit completely in that category, but the guys that ignore safety for the sake of going faster certainly are wannabes in my books. Sure you can strip down a stock LS1 6 speed Z28, add a big nitrous shot and run some impressive numbers, but it is gonna require alot more than that to pass tech, certified cage, axles, 'chute, master cut off, etc etc.
That being said, I hope Hot Rod runs this shootout as a legit sanctioning body would. That means, if it does not meet the letter of the rules...it doesn't get in, none of this: "well, the rest of the car passes, so you can compete." I hope it will be: Got a stock harmonic balancer on there? good bye. See you when you have an SFI approved one.
Now. I hope that clears stuff up a bit. And the crack about mopar guys....this is from personal experience....no other message board I have been a part of, and this includes many of different makes, have been as supportative and inflamatory as the crew here at moparts.com.
Thanks for stopping by.... AIGF
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No my car doesnt run under 9.99 And the only reason I posted in here was this was where the Hot Rod Magazine thread was. I could care less about being different brand. Evedentey you are just a little threatened by my exisitance on the board. I really hope not all Mopar guys are like you. I like fast cars and once again could care less what make,model they are. Seems like you still have that chip
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Well I guess you old guys need glasses too. Sure isnt the same color as mine. But either way haters unite.
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I don't like GM products myself but I'm not going to knock down people that do, besides it's a relevent thread about something any gear head would want to be involved in do lets play nice and stay on topic  If you wanna stay c5 please do, always interested to hear what the other folks are up to. Now of course my tagline might ignite a few folks but a friend gave me that shirt after a minor altercation with a, well you'll see, it wasn't on purpose I can assure you..
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I don't like GM products myself but I'm not going to knock down people that do, besides it's a relevent thread about something any gear head would want to be involved in do lets play nice and stay on topic If you wanna stay c5 please do, always interested to hear what the other folks are up to. Now of course my tagline might ignite a few folks but a friend gave me that shirt after a minor altercation with a, well you'll see, it wasn't on purpose I can assure you..
Now thats what I am talking about. A racer who states his points objectively and still can be politicaly correct. And he came down to the one point. Racing and showing your hard work and money spent for a magazine and the TV. What could be better. Now theres the kinda people I am GLAD are still in this sport.
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Well, not so much what happened to the Corvette...there was a "human" pin, if the vette is the bowlingball....
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Dave, I hope you are still following this thread...
This sounds like it will be a great time. Considering that there are several obvious rule-driven "breaks" involved, will there be consideration for cars that can run 12.0 FLAT consistently (i.e. cars that do not have roll bars), and cars that run 10.0 FLAT consistently (i.e. cars that are not sub-ten second cars to avoid certification/NHRA licensing, or are Bracket II/Heavy/Pro bracket cars that cannot run quicker than 10.0 flat in class)?? Most likely, these cars will all be N/A (possibly some small-displacement cars with power adders, like 4-cyl turbo cars) and certainly pump-gas machines.
So, perhaps there should be three "classes" - quickest 12.0-up car, 10.0-12.0 sec car, and quickest "unlimited" car - 9.99 -and quicker. Certainly, fastest will come into play, too.
That being said, there could be 50 applicants with cars quicker than 9.99, and so once again, the true streeters with realistic budgets will be left out again (like Car Craft's so-called "Cheap Street" class -- nitrous-fed small blocks -- puLEEZ). hopefully, there will be enough variety in the applicants to allow a selection of a good cross-section of entrants in all three catagories I mentioned.
I anxiously await the Jan issue of HRM!
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From the sounds of it, there is going to be a nice mix of cars based on the statements of awards given to 10, 11 and 12 second cars that best exemplify their class. This whole thing sounds like alot of fun. Hey David, can I throw in one suggestion for the rules? About 20 miles into the 30 mile cruise, have everyone shut their engine off for a period of 1 minute, and then re-start. BTW, if youre giving everyone 15 gallons of gas, I'm telling you that I can do the 30 miles and 3 passes on 5 gallons, so, do you want the extra 10 gallons back? Or should I donate it to someone else who needs it?   Actually, that brings up another idea... Make everyone drive the 30 miles BACK after running at the strip!! LOL Now THATS a true street car.
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My car is not very fast, mid 14s but recently my wife and I drove it 175 miles one way (in the rain) with all the stuff I needed to race (including my slicks for the rear, tools, chairs, cooler, gas can, water bottle, spare parts and all the clothes we needed) in the trunk and back seat and spent two days racing at the Summit Series Div 5 Finals in Denver. Then changed the tires, filled up with pump gas and drove the 175 miles home over two 11,000' elevation mountain passes without a single problem!!!!
LET'S RACE!!!!! I probably don't qualify, (with the few minor mods planned for the winter, I should be running mid 13s next season) but if you'll promise me a spot, I'll slap on a new set of tires and drive my car the 1200+ or so miles from my house to Memphis.
THAT, IS STREET!!!!
Hey Un, maybe we should have a daily driver drag, huh!!!!????? LOL
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From the sounds of it, there is going to be a nice mix of cars based on the statements of awards given to 10, 11 and 12 second cars that best exemplify their class.
This whole thing sounds like alot of fun.
Hey David, can I throw in one suggestion for the rules? About 20 miles into the 30 mile cruise, have everyone shut their engine off for a period of 1 minute, and then re-start.
BTW, if youre giving everyone 15 gallons of gas, I'm telling you that I can do the 30 miles and 3 passes on 5 gallons, so, do you want the extra 10 gallons back? Or should I donate it to someone else who needs it? Actually, that brings up another idea... Make everyone drive the 30 miles BACK after running at the strip!! LOL Now THATS a true street car.
i can handle all that, stop for groceries, and run bottom 10's, count me in!
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Thanks for all the support from the page! The haze will be there if the rules will allow. Dave, thanks for coming up with such a cool class - I can see why you have had such a rapid rise up the magazine ranks! For those of you who asked, we can run on pump gas and get pretty decent milage. The requirements will not be a problem, I just hope we are quick enough. Pump gas is a huge restriction, as it limits combustion pressures whether generated by nitrous or turbo, so this will equalize the class and make it competitive. I will look foward to seeing the full rules in Dec and trying to get ready!
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I cant wait to see the BIG Haze layeth the smack down on some weenie in a Mustang!! Yee haa!!!! I hope you get selected Haze!!
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This is great. If I were making the rules I would have a power adder and normally asparated street car catagory. The power adder will always win the quckest ET. I would want the cars to drive in 5 minutes of stop and go traffic and 30-40 miles to the track. Heres the trouble this rules out the wicked true street that are normally aspirated like unlawfuls and others on this board. I have a challenge for you I will drive my car from Denver Colorado to anywhere in the country and click off some very low 11s at sea level in a 3750 pound car with a 355 gear and drive it back home . You see thats probably not good enough LOL
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You know, the funny thing is...we will drive from Sacramento, CA to anywhere YOU want (your paying for gas ) and then click off some high to mid 8's on pump, or low 8's to high 7's on our racing fuel setup. 
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This is great. If I were making the rules I would have a power adder and normally asparated street car catagory. The power adder will always win the quckest ET. I would want the cars to drive in 5 minutes of stop and go traffic and 30-40 miles to the track. Heres the trouble this rules out the wicked true street that are normally aspirated like unlawfuls and others on this board. I have a challenge for you I will drive my car from Denver Colorado to anywhere in the country and click off some very low 11s at sea level in a 3750 pound car with a 355 gear and drive it back home . You see thats probably not good enough LOL
Flip, not following you here. Are you saying that a traffic jam and 30-40 miles will take its toll on my car? My car has ABSOLUTELY zero limits as far as how far I can go or what traffic I can sit in. Theres only one reason I own a car trailer and thats to avoid the headache if I should break something at the dragstrip. I've done the 4.5 hour drive to the Nationals at 3500 rpm's all the way.
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the power adders will always get the quickest ET. This means that cars like yours cant compete if THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE QUICKEST ET. wicked street cars like yours real street cars couldnt compete . I was paying you a compliment. Dont get defensive with me when im trying to compliment the fact that your car is normally aspirated and at the power levels that it is. Haze thats killer that you guys can drive any where in the country and click off those times my point was normally aspirated will always be slower. My Cannonball Run statement was meant to say that I may not be the quickest but I will drive the distance.
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I see how you would have misunderstood that UNLAWFUL if you re read my post you might understand what I was trying to say.
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I would drive there from where I am. The only problem is the low ground clearance which prevents me from crossing the bond.
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I see how you would have misunderstood that UNLAWFUL if you re read my post you might understand what I was trying to say.
Yeah, I see that now. A few carefully placed commas would have made it an easier read. Anyway, all is good and I was'nt trying to get defensive. Thanks for the nice compliment! In all actuality there will still be plenty of naturally aspirated cars to make me look like a pea-shooter. I like the naturally aspirated and power adder class deal. I'd REALLY like to show up with a 570 Wedge done up just like mine only bigger ofcourse. I cant wait for the Mustang guys to get a load of the Haze. It'll do everything they do only several hundred pounds heavier.
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This will be a cool race no doubt. Expect some well scienced out cars to be in attendance. Cars who have already ran a similar format in the Pro "True Street" or the similar Fun Ford class will be tough to beat. I know the blown Monza that runs the Pro series is a consistent high 8 sec performer and can do it back to back.Jon Phillips who works for Nitrous Express, also has a seriously quick nitroused small block Z car that he runs in these type events. I think he won this same type deal at last years Bristol Bash with a 9.20 or 9.30 average. That is the sticking point, a 7sec ride is no good if it won't do it three times in a row.
And the only thing I have to say for the "Haze" crew is get out and start testing, so that you guys can do the Mopar brand proud.
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Monte, good to hear from you! Long time man.
All I can say is that I cant wait for some of the new technology to get up and running with the Mopar stuff. With the new Procharger becoming available, I often find myself daydreaming about what a 3500 lb. Mopar with 540 cubes and a Procharger with a good season of tuning could do. Throw the Haze's power into a smaller Duster or Dart and the playing field is instantly leveled. This is still new and unorthodox to the Mopar faithful but when it takes off, look out!
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There's been strong lobbying for the inclusion of a closed-hood rule. In other words, you've gotta race it at the track in the same configuration that it was driven on the cruise. Same tuneup, same blower pulley, same valvesprings, all that. I'm leaning toward it. What do you think?
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I think you would put the smack down on some poeple who are normally aspirated UNLAWFUL. Cars that CAN sit in traffic in 100 degree heat and be able to be driven anywhere. At my elevation my car is considered pretty quick for a streeter. At 7500-9000 ft of corrected elevation one can get suicidal
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I dont think 30 miles is far enough say 130 miles open freeway 70 + mph lag behind need to refuel DQ. But thats probly considered pro touring to these guys. Great event the pump gas thing. I guess Im jelous I wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hades even with my rules. to the winner and participants no not the one finger wave just a friendly salute. It will be the best reading in HR in a some time.
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Ditto. Glad to see ya' popping in.
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Hi Dave, I'm thrilled that you are spearheading this type of event. It's such a good idea and I think it will go over well. Maybe someday in the future this can be expanded out west ( Phoenix  ) ? If so, I think there are a number of folks on this board and in this area that would be willing to do his or her small part in helping if needed. You can bet I will, as a contact for UTI's Hot Rod U program or with Hot Teams Racing ( www.outrunU.com ) or as just another die hard Mopar racer. For what it's worth.... I support the 'closed hood' rule. I also second the Haze as a prime candidate I support the import inclusion ( I think it will add a bit of spice to the write ups on this whole event ) I support world peace, homeless shel........ oops! Thanks Dave. john
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I would like to donate to the Haze's fuel fund, to support the Mopar brand. Would $50 be okay?? Thanks Nick, Would like to see a Mopar finish first in Hot Rod. 
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There's been strong lobbying for the inclusion of a closed-hood rule. In other words, you've gotta race it at the track in the same configuration that it was driven on the cruise. Same tuneup, same blower pulley, same valvesprings, all that. I'm leaning toward it. What do you think?
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Oh, absolutely David. In fact, I just assumed it would be done like this. If the contest is geared as a "street car" shootout, the cars should be ready to go JUST AS they may be sitting at a red light on the boulevard. If you need me to send you some evidence tape for the hood and trunk that will break if you try to peel it off, let me know.
Flip, I would imagine that if the playing field was leveled (stock cubes, pump gas, no power adders, through the mufflers) I could compete. Yep, I'd like to see you run at 1000 ft. with that car!
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There's been strong lobbying for the inclusion of a closed-hood rule. In other words, you've gotta race it at the track in the same configuration that it was driven on the cruise. Same tuneup, same blower pulley, same valvesprings, all that. I'm leaning toward it. What do you think?
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Oh, absolutely David. In fact, I just assumed it would be done like this. If the contest is geared as a "street car" shootout, the cars should be ready to go JUST AS they may be sitting at a red light on the boulevard. If you need me to send you some evidence tape for the hood and trunk that will break if you try to peel it off, let me know.
Flip, I would imagine that if the playing field was leveled (stock cubes, pump gas, no power adders, through the mufflers) I could compete. Yep, I'd like to see you run at 1000 ft. with that car!
That means if you are going to spray, you'd better have a remote bottle opener. It's illegal in many places to drive on the road with a bottle valve open.
edit: then again, if you have the right set up, it could be mounted inside the car...
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I for one would like to see a class structure, to include more winners! By Winners, I mean there are so many ways to build a very nice street ride, and these need recognition. How about a normally aspirated class? Any motor, any body, safety rules only, with the winner based on the MOST HP put to the track. That means that a guy with a 3800 pound package that ran an average ET of 10.00 would beat a car with less wieght, but faster, based on the factor of 5.825. ET devided by 5.825/cubed/= power to wieght ratio. Now you have to do some thinking! How am I going to get my car to make the mileage, AND put the power to the ground?
This could be split to King of the smallblocks,/King of the bigblocks. Lots of ways to go here!!
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I've yet to see a street race with a class structure. You go fast or you go home.
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I know of a black 68 Hemi Charger that should fit in to this rather nicely.
Oh yeah.. I think I know of the car you speak of. It would do the Mopar bretheren proud. What does he have it running now Tom? It must be deep in the 9's at this point. And folks, its a naturally aspirated pump gas HEMI!!
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so why not just get someone to donate a big roller cam, lifters and springs for the enginemasters engine. should be pretty easy to get 800 HP out of it. in the right car you might have a shot.
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My bad. I thought this was some kind of sanctioned event that was intended for cars that drive on the street. I don't street race. Good bye
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no body said you couldn't open the trunk!! 
Hey, it was Unlawfl's idea. He offered evidence tape for the hood and trunk.
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It's Wednesday night and I'm off to Bonneville, but the rules are pretty much squared away. We plan to have them posted online early next week. I'll provide a link as soon as they are live.
Thanks again for all the interest.
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2 things- The hoods cannot be opened at the track. I would think that the event sponsers and track officials would want to do a leak and safety check at the very least at the track after the drive.
support vehicles are not allowed at the track? So when the race is done, or if someone breaks, they will have to drive back to Comp to get their support vehicle if they have one or thumb a ride? If the round trip drive is not part of the competition why require this?
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The closed-hood rule has not proven a problem at past similar events. And street cars drive to the track and drive home and don't have a truck and trailer with tools and spare parts waiting in the pits. If you break, you lose anyway. We're pretty sure you can find a way back to COMP, and will probably even have a van for just that.
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Don`t get me wrong, I think this whole thing sounds like a real blast, I just noticed a slight contradiction in terms here. A "Real Street Car" ..... that meets "NHRA rules" ?? I would think that if I had aproved axles,roll cage, damper, power shut off, parachute etc. etc. etc. etc. then I wouldn`t be in a "Real Street Car" .... would I ? Or does a full interior and working lights and blinkers etc. alone, constitute a real street car and all else is open to translation ? Just one of my more moronic points to ponder lol.
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Read the string and you will see that HOT ROD editors are picking competitors to ensure a broad mix of cars. If it becomes a Camaro/Mustang event with a few Corvettes and Vipers, that will only be because Mopar guys choke and don't enter anything worthy. Don't let that happen. As of this morning, I have three Chevy applications (two Chevelles and a '69 Nova) and one Fox Mustang.
As to the comment about street cars not having rollcages and parachutes, two things: 1) There's no way to run any drag race a any track and ignore NHRA rules. 2) I guess you've never been to a street race in Chicago or Detroit.
Where's the Haze entry?
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"Seems to me that it is going to be Camaro/Firebird vs Mustang event. and pepper in a few Corvettes & Vipers. You guys missed the ball. good intentions though. Just my $.02 Henry" Missed the Ball???? In What way? (Seriously, in the most respectful way I can say that) What event are you contrasting this to? Have you been to any 10.5" outlaw shootouts lately and counted the hords of mopars at them? No, of course not, because they are far and few between. Those events are dominated by Fords and GM products because they have a FAR greater number of fast cars to show in just about any market. NO, it doesn't get any better than this for the MOpar faithful. Here we have a direct invitation to an event that Hot Rod Mag is picking the participants and, even better, Hot Rod is here ( A MOPar forum) giving us first dibs on the 'get in early band wagon'. So, if it is a Mustang & F-body event it certainly won't be because we didn't have the oportunity to participate. I also think that most of us here know that no one ever wins that argument about what defines a street car, its a moving target. So if the cars have to pass NHRA tech it's still a great concept/event by what ever name it is called by. Surely we don't wan't to try and get this going in violation to the most basic of safety rules. From what I have read of the rules it makes sense. I think the cars that can meet the posted demands and requirements are the same cars that a lot of folks will want to see compete. I see a few things that may need to be ironed out but I know I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. It's a great concept, keep up the good work. john
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John, That is my point. they are looking for the FASTEST street car. not fifty cars that they like. It is either the fastest cars that show up. PERIOD. or it is bogus. Will they let the beat up,primered,fast as hell Chevelle in. I doubt it.
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I just read the rules and it looks like the Haze will fit in great. I am preparing an entry form and will send it off asap. As far as being dominated by mustangs and such like, if it is then it is the mopar community's fault. If we can't step up, then we better step back! We are willing to bring the Haze 2000+ miles to try our best if we get picked. Mopars have dominated many forms of racing for years, and I think this an excellant opportunity for us to get back on top. By the way, the Haze with chute is 19 feet long, will that fit on the cover of Hot Rod, or will you have to go legal size? lol
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I cant agree with the statement that this has to be a mustang/firebird/camaro dominated event. Sanctioned classes have made it so those cars can accel in certain classes, but why couldnt a nitroused Mopar do the same thing a supercharged 'stang or F-body does? Theres no reason at all, just not as much interest in that type of class by the Mopar camp I guess. No big deal.
David, you'll have my app. just as soon as I can write something good enough to sell my car into the competition. About the only thing I NEED to do is fix my horn, but I'll be more prepared than I am now come May 1st.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/24/03 08:40 AM
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Read the string and you will see that HOT ROD editors are picking competitors to ensure a broad mix of cars. If it becomes a Camaro/Mustang event with a few Corvettes and Vipers, that will only be because Mopar guys choke and don't enter anything worthy. Don't let that happen. As of this morning, I have three Chevy applications (two Chevelles and a '69 Nova) and one Fox Mustang.
As to the comment about street cars not having rollcages and parachutes, two things: 1) There's no way to run any drag race a any track and ignore NHRA rules. 2) I guess you've never been to a street race in Chicago or Detroit.
Where's the Haze entry?
DF
You should be receiving the entry form for a black 68 Hemi Charger as soon as the pictures are ready.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/24/03 09:12 AM
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As to the comment about street cars not having rollcages and parachutes, two things: 1) There's no way to run any drag race a any track and ignore NHRA rules. 2) I guess you've never been to a street race in Chicago or Detroit.
Henry,
I am not picking on yuo nor flaming just trying to shine some light into the tunnel. I will say this there are tons of fast cars here in Detroit. I can also, with confidence state there are some fast cars in Chi-town. I watched a street race between Mike Moran and some guy on what appeared to be a Pro-stock style bike back in the mid 80's. Moran dragged the back bumper as he went through an intersection, not because the car rode low but because the fronts were hanging. There is a 5 window coupe that runs 8.60's and usually runs about 3/8's of a mile as he goes down the strip.  Also I know my buddy drove his 6.67@210mph Camaro on the street this summer. Now all of the above mentioned cars are NHRA legal. Now to the class racing stuff. There is some truth in the staement about it being a Mustang and Chevy show. But let's face it, Ma Mopar is just getting on board and the after market guys are too. The rules are catered to the Ford and Chevy guys. Then if a Mopar does win and win consistantly they are penalized. Case and point is Greg Lagore(sp) in Real Street. Win 2 years in a row and EVERY Mopar has to be 200lbs heavier. Oh that is fair, NOT!!! But if you want to play, you play by their rules. Lastly, both cars in my sig are street legal, plated and insured.
DF, thanks for looking out for us. I am going to look into getting something together for this.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/25/03 07:59 PM
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I just had a crazy idea which certainly would add an interesting twist to the competition...
What is one thing that every STREET car has or should have?
An air cleaner!
What if every competitor was required to cruise & race with a street type air filter in place? Since a high HP might see a restriction of the air cleaner, this rule may tighten up the spread of ET's and somewhat limit how fast the quickest cars can really go.
The rule could state that a round size of say 14" diameter by say 4" high is the max size (no K&N filter lids). If a car is fuel injected with a factory style air box or aftermarket ram air, a filter with the same square inches of filter material could be used. And of course, tech would have to ensure that the filters were tightly sealed to the carb/air inlet with no air bypass holes.
Kinda a silly idea, but sure would make it a tuners race (obviously have to be tuned in before showing up) and the highest powered car would have it's hands full tuning with limited air flow input.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/26/03 10:00 PM
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You should be receiving the entry form for a black 68 Hemi Charger as soon as the pictures are ready.
Sweet!!! I don't know what it runs now, but it should be competitive! I know its a true street car, I've seen it on the road!
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
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66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/27/03 05:08 PM
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DF,
Has there been any thought given to nitrous enrichment? I know many nitrous racers who have a separate fuel tank/cell for the nitrous system which typically has a higher octane race fuel in it. Is this going to be allowed or are these auxilary tanks gonna be required to run the same 93 octane fuel as well?
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/27/03 10:11 PM
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IS anybody from this board invited to this event yet????
ricky
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags
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10/29/03 04:25 PM
10/29/03 04:25 PM
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We have not a single Mopar entry so far--still just Chevys and Fox Mustangs. What's the deal?
DF
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