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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags #4042
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no body said you couldn't open the trunk!!

Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Quicktree] #4043
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I know of a black 68 Hemi Charger that should fit in to this rather nicely.

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I for one would like to see a class structure, to include more winners! By Winners, I mean there are so many ways to build a very nice street ride, and these need recognition. How about a normally aspirated class? Any motor, any body, safety rules only, with the winner based on the MOST HP put to the track. That means that a guy with a 3800 pound package that ran an average ET of 10.00 would beat a car with less wieght, but faster, based on the factor of 5.825. ET devided by 5.825/cubed/= power to wieght ratio. Now you have to do some thinking! How am I going to get my car to make the mileage, AND put the power to the ground?
This could be split to King of the smallblocks,/King of the bigblocks. Lots of ways to go here!!


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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: gregsdart] #4045
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I've yet to see a street race with a class structure. You go fast or you go home.

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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Prostock] #4046
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I know of a black 68 Hemi Charger that should fit in to this rather nicely.




Oh yeah.. I think I know of the car you speak of. It would do the Mopar bretheren proud. What does he have it running now Tom? It must be deep in the 9's at this point. And folks, its a naturally aspirated pump gas HEMI!!

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so why not just get someone to donate a big roller cam, lifters and springs for the enginemasters engine. should be pretty easy to get 800 HP out of it. in the right car you might have a shot.

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My bad. I thought this was some kind of sanctioned event that was intended for cars that drive on the street. I don't street race. Good bye

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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Quicktree] #4049
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no body said you couldn't open the trunk!!



Hey, it was Unlawfl's idea. He offered evidence tape for the hood and trunk.

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It's Wednesday night and I'm off to Bonneville, but the rules are pretty much squared away. We plan to have them posted online early next week. I'll provide a link as soon as they are live.

Thanks again for all the interest.

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PUMP GAS DRAGS RULES ARE DONE!!!

http://www.hotrod.com/upcomingevents/113_0401_pump/

Go to the link, check 'em out, and sign up now. Also note that the race logo includes a Mopar.

Let's race.

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2 things- The hoods cannot be opened at the track. I would think that the event sponsers and track officials would want to do a leak and safety check at the very least at the track after the drive.

support vehicles are not allowed at the track? So when the race is done, or if someone breaks, they will have to drive back to Comp to get their support vehicle if they have one or thumb a ride? If the round trip drive is not part of the competition why require this?

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The closed-hood rule has not proven a problem at past similar events. And street cars drive to the track and drive home and don't have a truck and trailer with tools and spare parts waiting in the pits. If you break, you lose anyway. We're pretty sure you can find a way back to COMP, and will probably even have a van for just that.
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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Freiburger] #4054
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Don`t get me wrong, I think this whole thing sounds like a real blast, I just noticed a slight contradiction in terms here.
A "Real Street Car" ..... that meets "NHRA rules" ??
I would think that if I had aproved axles,roll cage, damper, power shut off, parachute etc. etc. etc. etc. then I wouldn`t be in a "Real Street Car" .... would I ? Or does a full interior and working lights and blinkers etc. alone, constitute a real street car and all else is open to translation ?

Just one of my more moronic points to ponder lol.


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Seems to me that it is going to be Camaro/Firebird vs Mustang event. and pepper in a few Corvettes & Vipers. You guys missed the ball. good intentions though. Just my $.02
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Read the string and you will see that HOT ROD editors are picking competitors to ensure a broad mix of cars. If it becomes a Camaro/Mustang event with a few Corvettes and Vipers, that will only be because Mopar guys choke and don't enter anything worthy. Don't let that happen. As of this morning, I have three Chevy applications (two Chevelles and a '69 Nova) and one Fox Mustang.

As to the comment about street cars not having rollcages and parachutes, two things: 1) There's no way to run any drag race a any track and ignore NHRA rules. 2) I guess you've never been to a street race in Chicago or Detroit.

Where's the Haze entry?

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DF, I been following this post but chose not to respond until I read the rules you posted.
My opinion is that the majority of the cars that meet your rules and the parameters of 15 gallons of pump gas to run 30 miles and then three passes down the quarter with no tuning/setup runs will be nitrous hogs on newer model cars.

You are planning to pick a combination of cars for variety but I thought the idea is The Fastest Street Car. If Fifty Fox Mustangs running 9.90s or better show up and everything thing else is slower, then the list should be all mustangs. Not "well this Charger, Nova, Ect. are slower but we had to pick them for variety"
Are you looking for the FASTEST street car? or just fifty cars that suit your interests?



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"Seems to me that it is going to be Camaro/Firebird vs Mustang event. and pepper in a few Corvettes & Vipers. You guys missed the ball. good intentions though. Just my $.02
Henry"



Missed the Ball????
In What way? (Seriously, in the most respectful way I can say that)

What event are you contrasting this to? Have you been to any 10.5" outlaw shootouts lately and counted the hords of mopars at them? No, of course not, because they are far and few between. Those events are dominated by Fords and GM products because they have a FAR greater number of fast cars to show in just about any market.

NO, it doesn't get any better than this for the MOpar faithful.
Here we have a direct invitation to an event that Hot Rod Mag is picking the participants and, even better, Hot Rod is here ( A MOPar forum) giving us first dibs on the 'get in early band wagon'. So, if it is a Mustang & F-body event it certainly won't be because we didn't have the oportunity to participate.

I also think that most of us here know that no one ever wins that argument about what defines a street car, its a moving target. So if the cars have to pass NHRA tech it's still a great concept/event by what ever name it is called by. Surely we don't wan't to try and get this going in violation to the most basic of safety rules.

From what I have read of the rules it makes sense. I think the cars that can meet the posted demands and requirements are the same cars that a lot of folks will want to see compete. I see a few things that may need to be ironed out but I know I'm not going to lose any sleep over them.

It's a great concept, keep up the good work.

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Those events are dominated by Fords and GM products because they have a FAR greater number of fast cars to show in just about any market.






John, That is my point. they are looking for the FASTEST street car. not fifty cars that they like. It is either the fastest cars that show up. PERIOD. or it is bogus. Will they let the beat up,primered,fast as hell Chevelle in. I doubt it.


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I just read the rules and it looks like the Haze will fit in great. I am preparing an entry form and will send it off asap. As far as being dominated by mustangs and such like, if it is then it is the mopar community's fault. If we can't step up, then we better step back! We are willing to bring the Haze 2000+ miles to try our best if we get picked. Mopars have dominated many forms of racing for years, and I think this an excellant opportunity for us to get back on top. By the way, the Haze with chute is 19 feet long, will that fit on the cover of Hot Rod, or will you have to go legal size? lol

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