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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Blown71X] #3982
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Timing is everything... and mine sucks! I can't throw my hat into the ring because my junk's still apart and it's a TBD as to when it will be running again. But it certainly fits the theme of this, being a legit pump-gas street-driven (I should emphasize DRIVEN) car that ran consistent 11.0s and dipped into the 10.9s under good conditions. The new bullet should put the hurt to those times (an extra 50 HP ought to be worth something). My backup engine would be a pretty good platform for an N2O effort, too, even though the chassis isn't 9.99 legal. Oh, well...

BTW, "10secBu" is my old MSTRA nemesis Todd G! Last I heard his wasn't a legal street car (too recent a year to bypass his state's emissions regulations), but maybe that's changed...? And "Bu" doesn't mean Buick, it means Malibu!

Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: BradH] #3983
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A few answers:
- Fuel will be 93 octane, not California gas, and will be supplied for free by HOT ROD, COMP Cams, and the fuel sponsor

- Yes, imports are allowed and even encouraged. You're not afraid of them, are you?

- There's no weight minimum currently in the rules. But as I've stated many times, the official rules will be those in the January HOT ROD. Not everything is fully locked in yet.

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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: BradH] #3984
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Timing is everything... and mine sucks! I can't throw my hat into the ring because my junk's still apart and it's a TBD as to when it will be running again. But it certainly fits the theme of this, being a legit pump-gas street-driven (I should emphasize DRIVEN) car that ran consistent 11.0s and dipped into the 10.9s under good conditions. The new bullet should put the hurt to those times (an extra 50 HP ought to be worth something). My backup engine would be a pretty good platform for an N2O effort, too, even though the chassis isn't 9.99 legal. Oh, well...

BTW, "10secBu" is my old MSTRA nemesis Todd G! Last I heard his wasn't a legal street car (too recent a year to bypass his state's emissions regulations), but maybe that's changed...? And "Bu" doesn't mean Buick, it means Malibu!




Hey Brad, long time, no chat .

Yes, the Malibu is completely street legal now. Since the car is now 25 years old, I was able to aquire Marylands "Street Rod" tags which makes the car street legal and emissions exempt.

I made several changes for street duty. First and foremost, I took the drag type mufflers/exhaust off and replaced it with a 3 1/2" in/3" out Dr. Gas X-pipe leading into a pair of 20" long Dynomax welded UltraFlow (largest case they offer) mufflers. The exaust terminated in a pair of 3" tail pipes I custom fabbed to go over the rear axle and exit behind the rear tires...no small feat with the stock suspension pieces and the Wolfe anti-roll bar taking up most of the available space.

I then had to install a NASCAR style oil cooler since the block is filled. The oil temps are now inline with where they should be...also switched to Mobil1 synthetic oil.

Lastly, I had my rear Centerline Convo-Pro wheels widened 1" from 8.5" to 9.5". After they came back, I installed a pair of BFG drag radials in the 325/50-15 size. Oh yea, I swapped the 4.56 gears out for 4.10's since I went from a 30" tall slick to a 28" tall DOT tire...keeps the rpms in check.

Best runs in race trim on a 9 x 30 radial slick were 10.66 @ 125 with a 1.47 60'. Best run (only 4 passes thus far) in true street trim on DR's and full exhaust is 10.96 @ 121 with 1.52 60'.

I have one more DOT race (MSRA sanctioning body) this Sunday at 75/80. After that I want to sneak over to Cecil and see what the car will do at a good track in good air in full street trim.

Brad, you STILL ain't got that Challenger back together??? What's the hold up? Don't say your new child as I now have two, am a full time Mr. Mom and still find time/funds to play with the car .

If you have time, slip out to 75/80 this Sunday and chat awhile .

Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Freiburger] #3985
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- Yes, imports are allowed and even encouraged. You're not afraid of them, are you?


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I think he is. But I on the other hand have no problem

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hey 10secBu, I know you from the hobart welding forum
it is a small internet

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- Yes, imports are allowed and even encouraged. You're not afraid of them, are you?


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I think he is. But I on the other hand have no problem




the major problem i see with an import is the weight difference ...


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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: dodgepu360] #3988
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Yup, sure is .

Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: Blown71X] #3989
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i really think it will take a solid 7 second car to be competitive.




Na...I don`t think so....While i`ll not deny the fact that there are most likely several sub 8 second cars that might be able to pull this off....I have to wonder just how many of them could do it on "pump", make the drive to the track and in the imports case, make 3 consecutive passes without breaking something.....My guess is it`s gonna take 9.30`s to 10.0`s to be in the "show". If you take 100 people and ask them their defination of a "street" car your gonna get 100 different answers...but the level it takes to get into the 8`s and lower is pushing a very thin line on a "really" streetable car..one that can be driven more than 20 or so miles, get on the interstate and stay with traffic,not overheat while sitting in said traffic...blah blah blah..
Maybe i`m wrong and if so i`ll be the first one to stand up and say so...But I just don`t see it happening.

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you might be right. understand that i see/work on 650HP toyota's all the time with twin turbo's on pump gas. couple that with the weight advantage and you have a pretty fast ride. if you think 10's will take the crown, go for it... afterwardss you might just be

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Light import, turbo, NOS = winner.


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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: JohnRR] #3991
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OK, where did all the enginemasters motor parts go? Time for a Moparts entry!!




still in my basement , who has a street legal car that is lo 10 , hi 9 (on street tires??) capable and will except a big block ??? i'm serious ... of course i should speak to the guy that owns the heads ...

suppose i could get my m code dart together ????




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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech.

Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking.




Hmm and how is it I wouldnt get by tech? With a cage installed to let me go to 9.99 and a fire suit,gloves,helmet and harness. Did I miss something? So is it because I have a new car I am a wanna be?




If it is NHRA legal I have no problem with it. My point was there are ALOT of cars out there running big numbers in the street, but would never be allowed to make a pass at a NHRA track becuse of no cage, harness, battery shut off, etc.....

Scared of imports? Naaah, just curious as there are some fast sport compacts out there.

Nice chip on your shoulder there. Now I remember why I like Mopar guys so much.

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Re: Announcing the HOT ROD Magazine Pump-Gas Drags [Re: BBR] #3993
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RACE DATES CONFIRMED!!!!!
As of today, COMP Cams has locked in Pump Gas Drags race dates. We got a weekend after all!

Tech at Comp Cams: Friday, April 30
Drive to track and race: Saturday, May 1
Rain dates: May 2 and 3

Be there.

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Nice chip on your shoulder there.

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Who has the chip on the shoulder? Is that like the pot calling the green kettle black?

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Hmmm, I have flat top pistons .018-.020 in the hole and I'm right at 10.9-11.0 compression with Aluminum E-heads, I've been running 50% cam2 for safety but I wonder if I really need it. This motor is fairly mild and I've done plenty of street driving with no problem. If I could port these E-heads over the winter I think it could be a decent contender in the 9.90 area, w/o juice. I haven't had the car in good air yet and it goes 10.20's-10.30's on DOT tires very consistantly. I'm gonna keep an eye on this event.....

By the way, I think it's pretty cool that guys from other forums and car makes are visiting this thread.


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How about adding difficulty slightly? Make it three back to back runs that must be completed in ten minutes, and take the average of the three?


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How about adding difficulty slightly? Make it three back to back runs that must be completed in ten minutes, and take the average of the three?




that's a good idea, lets see that. maybe a few more motors will blow up.

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nice idea but a cubic dollar race car is gonna win this one not what the spirit of the idea is/was imho.

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Don't forget that the HOT ROD staff will be selecting the 50 cars that will race. Therefore we can eliminate the stuff that is obviously bogus. Like full race cars. Obviously there will still be plenty that push the limits.

I've been through trying to write rules to define what a "street car" is, and it's not possible. Too many people have too many ideas. So we'll decide for ourselves. Like that judge said about porn, "I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it." Same goes for "street cars."

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The cull point for most knuckleheads will probably be the "must meet NHRA safety standards for the speeds they will run". Wanna beees like MrC5 Vette will never get past tech.

Oh yeah....will ricers be allowed? Just checking.




Hmm and how is it I wouldnt get by tech? With a cage installed to let me go to 9.99 and a fire suit,gloves,helmet and harness. Did I miss something? So is it because I have a new car I am a wanna be?




If it is NHRA legal I have no problem with it. My point was there are ALOT of cars out there running big numbers in the street, but would never be allowed to make a pass at a NHRA track becuse of no cage, harness, battery shut off, etc.....

Scared of imports? Naaah, just curious as there are some fast sport compacts out there.

Nice chip on your shoulder there. Now I remember why I like Mopar guys so much.

-James






Nice chip on my shoulder? Hmm I didnt call you a wanna bee and reply like I had something against you from the start. I took that as a chip on your shoulder.

My car runs decent numbers and fits into the category they want. If they choose me you better believe I will be there.

Hmm and I never said anything about different car makes. I have a FORD guy as my mechanic and helper. Done all the work to my car side by side. I have no preferences on what type of car I drive or own. I like things that go fast and respect what other people have done. But hey then again I am just a wanna bee

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Competition is what makes this sport fun boyz....lets just keep it on a "my daddy can beat your daddy" level

Now the only exciting events we have on the west coast are earthquakes and listening for detonation from bad gas

Somebody bring an "event" to the West Coast.......I'll even hand out the flyers

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