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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
[Re: PAINT IT BLACK]
#377069
07/16/09 11:55 AM
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I have a set of SSBC disk brake conversion calipers on my drum brake spindles now. They are essentially the calipers off of '65 Mustangs. Would they be superior to stock '70 Mopar calipers?
4 piston fixed calipers are a theoretically better design for performance. They distribute braking forces on the pad more evenly. But the 65 caliper isn't like a willwood caliper.
BTW the Shelby race cars in 65/66 upgraded thier front disk and calipers to 65/66 T-bird sized stuff. 65 mustangs weigh a lot less than a 70 Charger they are selling those conversion kits for.
The reason those companies sell the mustang 4 piston setup is they all got started making mustang disk conversions. They adapted their existing inventories to cover the Mopar market.
For as hooky as some of the parts in those conversions and as easy and stock looking a FMJ spindle conversion is, I don't understand why people buy it. And you can easily/cheaply upgrade the Mopar conversion to 11.75 rotors with no custom stuff.
Marketing, packaging (all the parts in one shiny kit) and creating a perception goes a long way.
Worse are those conversions that have GM master cylinders that stick way in the engine compartment.
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
[Re: OzHemi]
#377071
07/16/09 12:26 PM
07/16/09 12:26 PM
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Summit is selling a 4 piston replacement caliper now too it looks like.. 
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-BK189/
Sketchy discription. I would think there would be more parts needed than in that picture.
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
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#377072
07/16/09 12:28 PM
07/16/09 12:28 PM
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Fresno, CA
Jim_Lusk
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I have a set of SSBC disk brake conversion calipers on my drum brake spindles now. They are essentially the calipers off of '65 Mustangs. Would they be superior to stock '70 Mopar calipers?
Which stock '70 Mopar calipers? If you are talking about a-body calipers they are essentially the same.
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
[Re: autoxcuda]
#377073
07/16/09 01:02 PM
07/16/09 01:02 PM
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Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi
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Summit is selling a 4 piston replacement caliper now too it looks like..
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-BK189/
Sketchy discription. I would think there would be more parts needed than in that picture.
Not sure...just caught my eye in the latest Summit catalog I got the other day with an order
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
[Re: autoxcuda]
#377075
07/17/09 02:45 AM
07/17/09 02:45 AM
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1_WILD_RT
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I have a set of SSBC disk brake conversion calipers on my drum brake spindles now. They are essentially the calipers off of '65 Mustangs. Would they be superior to stock '70 Mopar calipers?
4 piston fixed calipers are a theoretically better design for performance. They distribute braking forces on the pad more evenly. But the 65 caliper isn't like a willwood caliper.
BTW the Shelby race cars in 65/66 upgraded thier front disk and calipers to 65/66 T-bird sized stuff. 65 mustangs weigh a lot less than a 70 Charger they are selling those conversion kits for.
The reason those companies sell the mustang 4 piston setup is they all got started making mustang disk conversions. They adapted their existing inventories to cover the Mopar market.
For as hooky as some of the parts in those conversions and as easy and stock looking a FMJ spindle conversion is, I don't understand why people buy it. And you can easily/cheaply upgrade the Mopar conversion to 11.75 rotors with no custom stuff.
Marketing, packaging (all the parts in one shiny kit) and creating a perception goes a long way.
Worse are those conversions that have GM master cylinders that stick way in the engine compartment.
 Someone Gets it... There is good stuff out there but the GM stuff & the Mustang calipers  You want trink look at Andy's stuff... You just want good brakes the 11.75 stuff is cheap & easy...
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
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#377076
07/20/09 10:25 AM
07/20/09 10:25 AM
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1964Polara
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And you can easily/cheaply upgrade the Mopar conversion to 11.75 rotors with no custom stuff.
Sounds great! Which # rotors fit?
Any other ideas for improving the Brake Power?
Want to remain with manual brakes any one who tried
another Master Cylinder for more breaking pressure = Breaking Power?
Thanx
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Re: Mustang 4 piston calipers vs. Cuda OEM calipers.
[Re: 1964Polara]
#377077
07/20/09 10:31 AM
07/20/09 10:31 AM
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And you can easily/cheaply upgrade the Mopar conversion to 11.75 rotors with no custom stuff.
Sounds great! Which # rotors fit?
Any other ideas for improving the Brake Power?
Want to remain with manual brakes any one who tried
another Master Cylinder for more breaking pressure = Breaking Power?
Thanx
Read here:
http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/archive/disc-main.html
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