Very ENTERTAINING,to say the least! Pretty well put together show! And GOOD JOB DARREN! You conveyed your thoughts and engine info in a professional, well-spoken manner! 820 HP out of a stock HEMI? Can you say "SUPER STOCK"??!! It did sound AWESOME! Randy B.

We just came up with the concept for the show and showed what happened!
Stan knew the results could raise a few eye brows. Had no idea where it would end up.

Chuck West

I dont know about that particular Hemi. But the arm wrestler that owns it used to have a 500+ cube hemi in the coronet they showed breifly. Or so I was told at the Hayes race.

Hey DT, when will that issue of American Muscle be for sale on DVD. I know in the past that could be purchased. Where do we get one also?? Thanks, awsome show.

In defense of the Hemi, we had a week (at our expense) to put together 3 motors, none of which are easy to get parts for. The hemi is an iron headed motor with steel rods, and a flat tappet cam. FAST motors make 850 and SS motors make over 900 now. Yes that motor has more work in it than it should, but we used what we had at the shop for motors in progress.

Remember television is for entertainment, much like the internet, so don't read too much into it. Also, it's not like it was a secret kept from the production.

Darren,
Empty your mail box! Lol!

Chuck West

Just for posterity, the tunnel port ford 427 was NEVER offered in any vehicle at any time, ever. It was over the counter ONLY, and mostly for the NASCAR crowd. So if any engine should have been deemed a ringer, how'bout one that never came in any car ever.

Also, I worked most of my life in underwater production. Every thing I've ever shot has had some unrealistic spin put on it by, post production, or an executive in the production. Unfortunately in most cases (not saying this is the case here) the people in post don't know the first thing about the subject matter. It's just a fact of TV. Two of the most discrediting things said about anything are; I saw it on TV, or read it on the internet. Enjoy it for what is, have a good laugh, and be glad YOU guys know something the VAST majority of viewers don't.

It was a nice show Darren and you did a great job

I want to arm wrestle Dave for the HEMI

Just kidding LOL

You guys coming to any of the events up North this year Darren?

Thanks man, we'll be at the Nats and the Southern nats. David's going for his fifth world championship in arm wrestling this year! He want's to know if you will put your Duster up in the match.LOL.

I will only put it up if I and about 30 other guys at one time can arm wrestle him LOL. Wish I had a nice a Duster I just have a lonely cheap Dart Sport

Good Luck this year Darren and Good Luck to Dave

Sorry man, I was on the phone with my buddy who has a Duster, while I was typing. So much for me and multi tasking.

LOL

I'm just kidding ya Darren LOL

Wish I had a car like yours

I just like how i was watching with my chevy buddy....he flipped out..

Steve

Darren, you did a great job in front of the camera!

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and great burnouts throughout the show.
Cool to get to smoke 'em up in the purple Cuda for the camera at the end.

Great Job Darren

Attention DTHEMI

I'm interested in knowing why your "stock" 426 Hemi made more power than ANY of these 500 cubic inch, highly modified hemis that competed in "Mopar Muscle's" 2005 Hemi challenge.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/mopp_0603_2005_mopar_muscle_engine_challenge_results/lofgren.html

I'd also like to know why this (truly) stock 426 hemi made just 315 Rear Wheel HP if it makes 820 at the crank.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/roadtests/37426/index.html

Then I'd like to know why (truly) stock 426 Hemis could only run mid 13s @ 105 MPH - on 9" wide slicks:

http://members.cox.net/harddrivin1le/HEMI323vs456.JPG

Perhaps you could enlighten us.

The Hurst Hemi car, the Super Stock Darts and similar cars ran FULLY BLUEPRINTED RACING HEMIS!

They were VASTLY more powerful the production line street hemis. They ran 12.5:1 plus CRs, radical cams, open long tube racing headers, custom intake set-ups, worked valvetrains, etc.

Even those (and the similarly prepped 426 Hemi NASCAR racing engines) made less than 600 HP.

Here's an interview with the head of Chrysler's NASCAR effort in 1970. He clearly states what I just reiterated:

http://www.hotrod.com/web/113_0508_wing/index.html

"Q: How much reserve power was left in the 426 Hemi for future increases by the end of the 1970 NASCAR race season?

A: The way we all felt at that time was we really didn't want to do any more to increase power unless it was exceptionally safe. We were running around 585 to 595 horsepower in our race engines. Yeah, we had some 600 and 610 horsepower motors but they weren't very reliable."


Sorry, but the bone stock 426 Street Hemis just weren't all that fast by modern standards.

Full-tilt Super Stock and NASCAR 426 racing hemis were making less than 600 HP in 1970.

http://www.hotrod.com/web/113_0508_wing/index.html

"Q: How much reserve power was left in the 426 Hemi for future increases by the end of the 1970 NASCAR race season?

A: The way we all felt at that time was we really didn't want to do any more to increase power unless it was exceptionally safe. We were running around 585 to 595 horsepower in our race engines. Yeah, we had some 600 and 610 horsepower motors but they weren't very reliable."

"Mr Norm" most certainly wasn't building 820 HP street hemis back then!


None of these 500 cubic inch Hemis packed full of modern high performance parts could touch 820 HP:

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/mopp_0603_2005_mopar_muscle_engine_challenge_results/lofgren.html