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70 Chall flip top, LOCKING gas cap color/wont lock! #359533
06/27/09 12:27 PM 06/27/09 12:27 PM
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Org locking gas cap 70 Challenger.
My question is what color should it have on the cast section? bare metal or............

The ones I've seen pics of seems to have a gold color on the cast section.

So a pic on a restored or NOS one would help.

Is the rubber grommet(seals cap to the filler tube) available?

thanks Peter

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359534
06/27/09 12:41 PM 06/27/09 12:41 PM
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Close up of one from a very low mile car;

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359535
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Mines used, but still has it's color... It's similar to a Holley Carb... Zinc Dichromate... Scott Harms Smith offers that finish for other components, I'm sure he could do your cap body...

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #359536
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NOS;

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #359537
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Here is the backside of an NOS one I have if you need a reference of that. I've never heard of anyone selling new rubber seals for them.
Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: Mastershake340] #359538
06/27/09 01:11 PM 06/27/09 01:11 PM
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Yes, thats what I call a gold color, over here it's hard to do that kind of plating.

I mix some paint similar to org plating color, and then rub the paint down so it looks ok.

Have the original rubber, gonna make some rubber gasket to put under the old grommet to make it tighter to the tube.

Some day a new rubber grommet will be avaible?

Thanks for the help.
Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359539
06/27/09 10:27 PM 06/27/09 10:27 PM
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Yes, thats what I call a gold color, over here it's hard to do that kind of plating.

I mix some paint similar to org plating color, and then rub the paint down so it looks ok.

Have the original rubber, gonna make some rubber gasket to put under the old grommet to make it tighter to the tube.

Some day a new rubber grommet will be avaible?

Thanks for the help.




What about all the IKEA fasteners? There has got to be a plating shop in Sweden.

Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: FJ5_Fish] #359540
06/28/09 03:25 AM 06/28/09 03:25 AM
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You think IKEA is made in SWEDEN. Most of their stuff is made in Asia and shipped around the world.

Plating and chroming is harder to get done for each year, because of health issues and regulations from the gov.

But I check with the few plating shops still left in Stockholm monday.
Peter

Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: Mastershake340] #359541
06/28/09 09:37 AM 06/28/09 09:37 AM

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I need one for my 70 R/T SE. Does anyone know where to find one?

Thanks,
David
Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? #359542
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Heres another example

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: gygeneral] #359543
06/28/09 07:04 PM 06/28/09 07:04 PM
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David D. I will call a friend of mine who has an nos one.
I will ask him if it is for sale and let you know tomorrow.
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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? #359544
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Make sure it is right for your car. Vented (most '70's) or Pressure-Vacuum (some 70's, All 71's).
Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: FJ5_Fish] #359545
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Sorry David. He sold it last year.
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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #359546
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Made a new key, put the gascap together.

Can push it open in all positions, with or without the key. The lock don't work.

Should one of the four slots in the housing be shorter in the locking position? is it a metal piece in the bottom of one of the slots or?

Anyone who taken the gas cap apart should know about this.
Peter


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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359547
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Anyone taken the gascap apart?
Peter

Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359548
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Anyone taken the gascap apart?
Peter

If no one can help gp to a real lock smith.
I did when I could not take the glove box door lock off and he did it in a few seconds and said come back when I needed real stuff done. Was a super nice guy
I wonder if they would even have a market for then being remade {repoped} since 1 year only for the 70

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 340SIX] #359549
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Took it to a lock smith to make a key. Then to another one, more into car locks.

They looked at it and say they don't understand the function of the lock of the cap.

See attached pic, perhaps something is missing.

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359550
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FWIW, those looking cap were made by Briggs and Stratton.

Are you looking for it to just seal and function, or does it have to lock. I don't see that it's real important to have it lock.

I've seen Troy fix his on T/A. A plate or a lever inside was broken or something. Can't remember.
Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: autoxcuda] #359551
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Any Hope of someone making new ones?

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Re: 70 Chall flip top, locking gas cap color? [Re: 6pakdude] #359552
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Quote:

Took it to a lock smith to make a key. Then to another one, more into car locks.

They looked at it and say they don't understand the function of the lock of the cap.

See attached pic, perhaps something is missing.



I have had the exact same experience. I have an NOS piece that will not lock. So I took it to the oldest (expert) locksmith in town. He was familiar with the Briggs and Stratton stuff. We dissassembled it together and could not understand how that design could ever lock. It's quite a simple collection of parts. He also said he thought it had to be missing a part.

As someone else suggested, I now use it just as a regular gas cap.

Until total honesty is on the table, we're not even talking about reality...
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