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What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? #358138 06/25/09 11:34 PM 06/25/09 11:34 PM
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daniel_depetro OP pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	A few weeks ago I noticed that my Super Bee has the speaker holes in the package tray that were not symmetrical. I remember thinking how "odd" it was. Then I saw phtos of some other 1969 cars where the speakers holes were the same size & direction. Was there an option difference for this or just different production plants? Example #1: Example #2: 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: daniel_depetro] #358139 06/26/09 07:59 AM 06/26/09 07:59 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	on my 69 road runner the passenger side hole is used for the air intake for the rear window defogger. i think it is turned so the blower motor will fit.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? #358140 06/26/09 08:26 AM 06/26/09 08:26 AM
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cornucopia C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,150 lewiston, ID	hmmmm... I have my two '69 coronets side by side out in the shop. one has rear window defoger. I'll have to look and see what configuration I have and get back with 'ya.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: cornucopia] #358141 06/26/09 09:35 AM 06/26/09 09:35 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483... daniel_depetro OP pro stock
daniel_depetro OP pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	Great! I figured it would have made more sense for the rear defogger to use the long skinny opening at the rear of the window directly in the center... 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: daniel_depetro] #358142 06/26/09 11:53 AM 06/26/09 11:53 AM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Quote: Great! the long skinny opening at the rear of the window directly in the center... thelong skinny hole is used for blowing air up onto the rear window. The speaker hole is used to get the air from inside the passenger compartment, to blow up on the window. A blower won't work if it can not get air. I never noticed the diference before. All the ones I have seen were the asymetrical set up. Maybe that is because I live in the north where a defroster was more likely to be ordered. (?)

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: bboogieart] #358143 07/05/09 12:12 PM 07/05/09 12:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483... daniel_depetro OP pro stock
daniel_depetro OP pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	That's what I thought too, but I'm 99% sure that my A12 Bee never had a rear window defroster and it has the asymetrical speaker holes. Maybe it was more of a production plant thing? 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: daniel_depetro] #358144 07/05/09 12:40 PM 07/05/09 12:40 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	There were no options for 2 rear speakers. Most have the holes aimed differently. The Blower motor used the opening to take in air. The long skinny slot was where the air came out to defrost the rear window. Only difference in angle of slots is different plants received the trays from different vendors.You'll notice one hole is 6X9. Thats the factory rear seat speaker hole. The other is smaller maybe 5X7 thats the defroster morot location. Last edited by Dougsmopars; 07/05/09 12:41 PM.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: Dougsmopars] #358145 07/05/09 12:51 PM 07/05/09 12:51 PM
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daniel_depetro OP pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	Quote: You'll notice one hole is 6X9. Thats the factory rear seat speaker hole. The other is smaller maybe 5X7 thats the defroster morot location. Hmmm...that's strange because the speaker in my (rescently sold) GTX is in the 5x7" hole and the 6x9" hole is the open one. 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: daniel_depetro] #358146 07/05/09 06:20 PM 07/05/09 06:20 PM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Dual rear speakers got 6x9 on passenger side and 5x8 on driver side, being each side the matching side on stereos setup, and front 4x10 being left channel. Acustically two smaller speakers will produce same sensation than one bigger speaker. Not perfect but close, so maybe thats the reason why two smaller speakers were used on left channel and one bigger on right channel. you couln't get dual rear speaker with rear deffog on B bodies. when getting rear deffog with stereo system, the 5x8 speaker on driver side was the right channel and front allways is left channel. On MONO setups with rear speaker, the speaker was located on same 5x8 hole. With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: NachoRT74] #358147 07/05/09 08:55 PM 07/05/09 08:55 PM
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DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	Coronet R/T. Mine are the same. The rear shelf from YO buckled after 15 years FYI.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: NachoRT74] #358148 07/05/09 10:08 PM 07/05/09 10:08 PM
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Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	Three speaker dash for AM/8Track used center speaker as one channel and each out board speaker as the other channel. The reason being you got stereo effect from each of the front seats. There were no options for dual rear speakers. They didn't offer it. One hole was for defroster motor.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: Dougsmopars] #358149 07/05/09 11:09 PM 07/05/09 11:09 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,416 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Quote: Three speaker dash for AM/8Track used center speaker as one channel and each out board speaker as the other channel. The reason being you got stereo effect from each of the front seats. There were no options for dual rear speakers. They didn't offer it. One hole was for defroster motor.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: Dougsmopars] #358150 07/06/09 11:50 AM 07/06/09 11:50 AM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	there was dual rear speaker setup!!! code R32. Or do you think the 6x9 speaker size with matching screw holes was a casuality on tray ? diff stuff is that maybe it wasn't in all years, that it could be, but is a fact there was dual rear speaker setup option, I'm sure at least since 71, an sizes were as stated. On E and C bodies ( I think A too ) there was an adapter to fit on same passenger side 6x9 hole the blower and speaker. --- I can't talk about the diff hole position ( horizontal or vertical ) though With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: NachoRT74] #358151 07/06/09 04:27 PM 07/06/09 04:27 PM
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Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	Perhaps in 71 and up there was a dual rear speaker option but not in 69. There was no reason to offer it. The only thing factory that was stereo in 69 was the eight track option and that came with a three speaker dash. Again in 69 there was no dual rear speaker option. Look in any 68 69 service manuel. The rear fader switch only had a single speaker lead coming from it.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: Dougsmopars] #358152 07/06/09 07:24 PM 07/06/09 07:24 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,416 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Quote: Perhaps in 71 and up there was a dual rear speaker option but not in 69. There was no reason to offer it. The only thing factory that was stereo in 69 was the eight track option and that came with a three speaker dash. Again in 69 there was no dual rear speaker option. Look in any 68 69 service manuel. The rear fader switch only had a single speaker lead coming from it. R31 Single rear speaker was the only option.

Re: What was the difference in the 1969 rear package trays? [Re: NITROUSN] #358153 07/07/09 10:35 AM 07/07/09 10:35 AM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	ok... interesting... well anyway is not casuality the hole and screw locations for blower meets with regular 6x9 speakers setup, maybe to rest of bodies. Simply the blower plate was made with the speaker specs to rest of bodies and that was kept even to B bodies With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

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