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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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07/26/09 11:01 PM
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I've got Prestone in it now. I added water wetter...didn't help at all, not one bit. Because I'm desperate (I've tried every trick in the book like you did), I'm going to drain the Prestone and substitute the Zerex G-05 and add another bottle of water wetter. It just seems too easy and no one reading this thread has commented on this procedure one way or the other.
Jim
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: JSSuperbee]
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07/27/09 12:09 AM
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It won't hurt to try that.
Hey Dayclona, I would look for a clutch fan that would fit the melon. Should free up some power and not run too hot now that you have things under control. My car is actually running better with a stock temp 190 high flow stat. Now it maintains 185-190, before it was running 170-180.
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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07/27/09 12:16 AM
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It won't hurt to try that.
Hey Dayclona, I would look for a clutch fan that would fit the melon. Should free up some power and not run too hot now that you have things under control. My car is actually running better with a stock temp 190 high flow stat. Now it maintains 185-190, before it was running 170-180.
Actually the wingcars run hotter with clutch fans, the factory has several TSB's to replace clutch fans in Daytona's returing to dealerships complaining of hot run conditions,....the Superbirds were TSBed, at their "assembly line", although a few "escaped" with clutch fans 
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: JSSuperbee]
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07/27/09 12:20 AM
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I've got Prestone in it now. I added water wetter...didn't help at all, not one bit. Because I'm desperate (I've tried every trick in the book like you did), I'm going to drain the Prestone and substitute the Zerex G-05 and add another bottle of water wetter. It just seems too easy and no one reading this thread has commented on this procedure one way or the other.
Jim
Jim,
I did the same thing at first, tried waterwetter with Prestone and saw no change,....the Zerex G-05 is completely different in it's chemical "make up", you'll see if you try it, it's clear in color, dosen't leave a sticky mess like the green stuff, wipes off with no trace,....and it less filling, and tastes great 
Mike
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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07/27/09 12:44 AM
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It won't hurt to try that.
Hey Dayclona, I would look for a clutch fan that would fit the melon. Should free up some power and not run too hot now that you have things under control. My car is actually running better with a stock temp 190 high flow stat. Now it maintains 185-190, before it was running 170-180.
Actually the wingcars run hotter with clutch fans, the factory has several TSB's to replace clutch fans in Daytona's returing to dealerships complaining of hot run conditions,....the Superbirds were TSBed, at their "assembly line", although a few "escaped" with clutch fans
True, but G-05 and Water Wetter weren't out in 69-70.
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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07/27/09 06:13 PM
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Mike:
I took a copy of your post to my radiator man that's been trying to help me with my overheating problem. He had an empty bottle of Zerex G-05 and read me the warning on the back of it and suggested I run the language by you and see what you think...before I put it in the cooling system.
It says on the back: IMPORTANT CONSUMER INFORMATION....."Antifreeze/coolant chemistries are different. Products that contain Organic Acid Technology (OAT) chemistry are NOT approved by Ford & Daimler Chrysler for HOAT/G-05 applications. Products using OAT chemistry may be damaging to cooling systems that specify HYBRID ORGANIC ACID TECHNOLOGY (HOAT) chemistry based on OEM recommendations." Sounds rather serious. What do you think?
Jim
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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07/28/09 01:16 AM
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I think that means don't run it with Dexcool since Dex has a rust eating organism.
Drain what you have and run it.
Exactly!,......I've been running the stuff(Zerex G-05) for about 5 years now in all my toys, daily drivers as well, with no problems, NOTHING,.....I wouldn't tell you to do something I haven't allready done, or use(d), when I refere to my Daytona's heating issuses, that was almost 5 years ago, when I "discovered" the Zerex G-05,....I haven't had a overheating issuse since, no corrosovive, or clogged componets, nothing,....the only issuse I have is now waiting for the car to "warm up"
The Dexcool is the crap you want to avoid, I'd heard to many horror stories from it's use to even consider it!,.....I do recommend if you use the Zerex G-05 with Redline waterwetter, you flush the system every year, and renew, as I see a slight increase in temp, as the year ends, I believe the effectiveness of the Zerex breaks down, plus it's a good idea to flush your system every year regardless IMHO
Just remember to really flush your system with clean water, don't leave any traces of the old coolant, if you know all your cooling componets are sound, and in excellent shape, don't replace any componets when changing over to the Zerex G-05 and WW, so that you can judge for yourself if it has any merit, on it's own in altering your cars cooling
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: Rob440Magnum]
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07/28/09 07:16 PM
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May I suggest you get the rad in & try it w plain water(its not going to rust up in an hour for a test) & see where the temp is then drain it & put the 05/ww in which will take very little additional effort & will tell you(& us) exactly how good this stuff is. That much of a claimed drop is miraculous(just from using different fluids) but if you do more than one change at a time you'll never know & if it's good I'm on it.
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: Rob440Magnum]
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07/28/09 08:18 PM
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Where do you buy: Zerex G-05 and Redline waterwetter?
How much waterwetter do you add per gallon of zerex?
Thanks, Rob
Zerex G-05 can be had at CarQuest, Auto zone, Pep boys,.....I've only seen the Redline at Autozone, it comes in a 8 oz bottle use the whole thing, I wouldn't substitute another WW manufacturer
Like I mentioned to Jim, if everything is up to snuff on your cooling system, don't make any changes, just add the Zerex and WW, and post your results,....and as Robert mentioned you have the rad flushed, just install, flush your motor, fill the system with just water run it/drive it, record your results, then bleed off enough fluid, usually a gallon, or close to it, and add the Zerex and WW, test drive record any/all changes,....then post your results
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Re: 440 six pack - running hot - why
[Re: RapidRobert]
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07/29/09 04:03 PM
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May I suggest you get the rad in & try it w plain water(its not going to rust up in an hour for a test) & see where the temp is then drain it & put the 05/ww in which will take very little additional effort & will tell you(& us) exactly how good this stuff is. That much of a claimed drop is miraculous(just from using different fluids) but if you do more than one change at a time you'll never know & if it's good I'm on it.
Dayclona has already proven Zerex works. I am not sure just plain water would be a fair comparison. I suspect plain water would run hotter than any coolant.
We have everything clean, flushed and drained. We will just be doing the zerex and hope for the best. Tired of messing around with the problem.
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