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Stroker HEMI. initial and total timing #348694
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So, what are you running for initial and total timing.

My Engine specs
4.15 stroke 9.5:1 HEMI.
250 int 257 exh @50 Hyd roller cam.

I read for that duration of cam 18-20 initial 35 total.

What are you finding that works?

Re: Stroker HEMI. initial and total timing [Re: six-barrel] #348695
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34-35 degrees total. All in REAL early, might as well be locked out. CHIP


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'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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On my 528 I run 30 degrees initial with 5 degrees mechanical all in by 2000. My cam is 272/274@.050, it idles at 900rpm. Dave

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So, what are you running for initial and total timing.

My Engine specs
4.15 stroke 9.5:1 HEMI.
250 int 257 exh @50 Hyd roller cam.

I read for that duration of cam 18-20 initial 35 total.


same combo as yours. 32 degrees total,with 34 degrees car slowed down a little. distributor locked out

What are you finding that works?



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new Larry Sheppard book says 35* on a stock 426,( but in another chapter it says 32* ) . Then it says you should be looking at 28-32 for the 472-528 motors. The way I read the article, it indicates that the longer the stroke, the less the timing.

I set my 4.5" stroke 511 from 35* down to 32*. Runs good , but i cannot say if is quicker or slower.
I run about 20* initial
Cam is a 244/254 112 hyd flat

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Trying to generalize timing settings based off the stroke and nothing else is a bunch of crap.
Mine has a 4.5" stroke and runs the best at 34-35 degrees. Any less and it slows down substantially. I tested it from 30-38 degrees back when I first put this motor in the car. And yes I've tried it with more than one timing light. CHIP


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Stroker HEMI. initial and total timing [Re: VanishPt] #348701
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A lot has to do with the compression you're running, the cam timing, etc. etc.
Our 498 likes 32-33 deg, but we're running a lot of compression.
If your not sure, start at 30 deg and work your way up to where it lays over at the finsih line, or slows down. Then bump it back one.
You will probably end up in the 32-34 deg range, but every combination is different.

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I run a Holley Prostrip that has the ability to program the timing every 500 RPM.Is there an advantage to more timing in the lower RPM range and retarding as the rpm increases??The MSD digital systems also have the ability to change individual cylinder timing.How would you guys set up the ramp up & down?

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I run a Holley Prostrip that has the ability to program the timing every 500 RPM.Is there an advantage to more timing in the lower RPM range and retarding as the rpm increases??The MSD digital systems also have the ability to change individual cylinder timing.How would you guys set up the ramp up & down?


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Re: Stroker HEMI. initial and total timing [Re: VanishPt] #348705
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This also interests me, my cam is .280@50 and i'm swapping to msd distributor but would like to avoid locking it out, fbo do bushes to increase initial to 24, will this be enough, i run 34 total.
Sorry to hijack, just thought this extra info would help everyone.
Mick


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best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36






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