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Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: RyanJ] #34521
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Alright, I've heard alot of people claim that these heads are too big for sub 416" motors but its all relative to the RPM that your turning. How much RPM would you say would be required with these heads on say a 394" motor. I can understand the too small cid vs. too big of a head on a street motor but what about the guys that dont care about street driving. These heads look pretty killer.


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Alright, I've heard alot of people claim that these heads are too big for sub 416" motors but its all relative to the RPM that your turning. How much RPM would you say would be required with these heads on say a 394" motor. I can understand the too small cid vs. too big of a head on a street motor but what about the guys that dont care about street driving. These heads look pretty killer.




well I have them on a 366" motor and they scream for what I have. I turn it 7k.

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That is killer, man. Great work.

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Those look like the heads to have...and they are available, right Ryan? I ask because it seems like all the really good small blk heads are hard to find...like the W5, 7,8 etc.

Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: PUNK] #34525
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Alright, I've heard alot of people claim that these heads are too big for sub 416" motors but its all relative to the RPM that your turning. How much RPM would you say would be required with these heads on say a 394" motor. I can understand the too small cid vs. too big of a head on a street motor but what about the guys that dont care about street driving. These heads look pretty killer.


to give you an idea,on a 345 cid engine with the right combo it should be able to reach 9300 rpm.wow!

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hey ryan, what does that 230 -2 flow? with that csa a 340 should be able to reach 8000 rpm.

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Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: prochamp] #34527
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to give you an idea,on a 345 cid engine with the right combo it should be able to reach 9300 rpm.wow!




YEAH! Thats what Im talkin aboot!!


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Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: PUNK] #34528
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to give you an idea,on a 345 cid engine with the right combo it should be able to reach 9300 rpm.wow!




YEAH! Thats what Im talkin aboot!!




Sounds great until you remember the fact that these are 59° heads!!

Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: dizuster] #34529
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Sounds great until you remember the fact that these are 59° heads!!




Yeah, thats true. I guess that is kind of a funky angle for that kind of RPM. Well, I was kinda excited for a second anyhow.


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Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: PUNK] #34530
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Yea you will also loose your excitement real fast when you find out the price of over 5000.00 dollars

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Yea you will also loose your excitement real fast when you find out the price of over 5000.00 dollars




so where else can you get heads that flows like that?

Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: 340RICK] #34532
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Yea you will also loose your excitement real fast when you find out the price of over 5000.00 dollars




That doesnt bother me at all. When your dealing with this caliber of cylinder head and performance, I definitely dont excpect Edelbrock RPM costs. $5000 is really not that bad at all for what you get.


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I have friends spending that much on Stock cylinder heads for NHRA Super Stock applications. Im talking stock iron heads. Any they still dont work ANYTHING like these heads. Performance costs $$$$$


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Money is not the prob

If you have plenty of money why would you build a 59* motor in the first place unless you are class racing.

If you got the cash build a 48* motor and for 5000.00 bucks you can get a nice set of W8's and make some real HP.

I just think that is too much dough for 59* stuff

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Ryan that short turn work sure did bring it to life

Re: INDY 360-1 245 CNC [Re: 340RICK] #34536
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Money is not the prob

If you have plenty of money why would you build a 59* motor in the first place unless you are class racing.

If you got the cash build a 48* motor and for 5000.00 bucks you can get a nice set of W8's and make some real HP.

I just think that is too much dough for 59* stuff




Slow down pilgrim, Im not trying to offend anyone here. Unfortunately I already have 59 degree R3 blocks (2) and for the money and the heads I need I feel these are a good deal. I am not made of money if thats how YOU read into my statement, I just feel too many people out there expect to pay a little for alot when it comes to performance. Sorry if I sounded like I was trying to belittle anyone that cant afford to buy $5000 59 degree heads. I will have to afford heads like these in my situation. Everyones situation is a little different and I wasnt asking any engine building recommendations. Again, not here to offend. Sorry.


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to give you an idea,on a 345 cid engine with the right combo it should be able to reach 9300 rpm.wow!




YEAH! Thats what Im talkin aboot!!




Sounds great until you remember the fact that these are 59° heads!!




ummmm, its the block that dictates 48* or 59*, most heads will go either with some work...ie grinding for the pushrod hole. Im pretty sure that its easier to make these heads along with any performance small block head to go on to a 48* block with out a problem, its just the large runner inhibits the 59* option on w8 type heads..

Steve

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These heads are being done for a new motor my uncle is building. It will be a siamese bore tall deck 59* r3 block. It will be 439ci. 14-1comp, roller cam on alcohol. It will be going in my new drag car. A 69 dart 3000lb, ladder bars and coil overs 29.5x11.5 tire. Converter will be bought after dynoing, 727trans and a dana 60. What do you think it will run at 200ft above sea level.




I would bet that seeings how it is a dart it will only run mid to low 10's on a good air day. If I was you I woulnd't waste my time or money on a dart. Just my opinion.

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These heads are being done for a new motor my uncle is building. It will be a siamese bore tall deck 59* r3 block. It will be 439ci. 14-1comp, roller cam on alcohol. It will be going in my new drag car. A 69 dart 3000lb, ladder bars and coil overs 29.5x11.5 tire. Converter will be bought after dynoing, 727trans and a dana 60. What do you think it will run at 200ft above sea level.




I would bet that seeings how it is a dart it will only run mid to low 10's on a good air day. If I was you I woulnd't waste my time or money on a dart. Just my opinion.




oh please that car will be well into the 9s

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ummmm, its the block that dictates 48* or 59*, most heads will go either with some work...ie grinding for the pushrod hole. Im pretty sure that its easier to make these heads along with any performance small block head to go on to a 48* block with out a problem, its just the large runner inhibits the 59* option on w8 type heads..

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Of course, but the point which was kind of already made was, if you're gonna use a 48° block, why not use w8's for the same price. . .

Don't get me wrong, I already have a set of Indy 360-2's so I'm not bashing them. They definately have their place. . . But it's just not at 9300rpm on a small motor that's all.

59° heads will go on a 48° block, but the push rods end up in between the intake and head mating face. Kind of makes for a pain in the *ss to seal the intake. . .

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