Re: No start problem on a "first fire"
[Re: MoparforLife]
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05/25/09 08:23 PM
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Well, i went to the garage and the ground strap WASN'T on. I took out a bolt from the intake pan hold down and scraped off some of the fresh paint and bolted it down using that bolt. I still doesn't turn over. I hoped that was it, but it isn't. I have not tried to jump the relay. how does that work? I made sure my connections on the starter are good and tight and they are. The connections at the relay are good and tight as well. I don't know if the relay is good. How do I test it or "jump" it?
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Re: No start problem on a "first fire"
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05/25/09 08:57 PM
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with key on, car will start....with it off, the starter will just turn the motor over unless you hot-wire the coil.....
touch the two chrome pieces together with edge of a screwdriver
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Re: No start problem on a "first fire"
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05/25/09 09:00 PM
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Quote:
with key on, car will start....with it off, the starter will just turn the motor over unless you hot-wire the coil.....
touch the two chrome pieces together with edge of a screwdriver
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Re: No start problem on a "first fire" Updated!!No Fix
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05/29/09 08:00 PM
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it should not be loose. tighten it up all the way & try it & see if your good but I would be inclined to get another one as you wouldn't want to chance on being majorly inconvenienced by a "no crank" at the wrong time from such an inexpensive part. EDIT with this being a new breakin you might switch the key to "on" & see if the ecu/ballast/coil are all getting fire & jump the coil neg to ground to see if you ARE getting spark from the coil secondary wire as you want it to fire IMMEDIATELY then at the relay jump the "batt" to the brown solenoid wire to get it cranking/started. Easier with several helpers which would be a good idea to have them there at breakin, one to add trans fluid one to check for leaks one to adj the idle speed screw & you in the driver seat to watch the gauges & shout orders . With a sucessfull breakin you will feel better about fixing the relay problem when you are done and read this article "break in secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com and when you immed get the rpm up to ~2500 or so rap the throttle many times during the 20 minute breakin.
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Re: No start problem on a "first fire" Updated!!No Fix
[Re: ramman16248]
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05/30/09 09:15 AM
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(carefully)w a screwdriver jump the 2 terminals on the starter itself. If no crank & lots of sparks then it is getting enough current & the starter needs to come out.
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Re: No start problem on a "first fire" Updated!!No Fix
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06/02/09 10:52 PM
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Ok, I finally had time to screw around with the car tonight. I double checked every thig we have discussed so far. Same results. I decided to put the car up on jack stands and try to see if the starter was in a bind. I figured while I was down there, I would take off the dust sheild on the bottom of the front of the transmission. I found that the small gear that kicks back to turn the torque converter to start it was still in the teeth of the converter. I loosened the starter mount bolts and wiggled the starter around and nothing happened. I tapped on the bottom of the starter with a large extension, and the little gear popped back into the starter. I figured,"great, that was it I am good to go." I put everything back together and hit the key and....Clunk. I crawled back under the car, took the inspection cover off and the gear was back out. I didn't loosen the starter this time, i just tapped the starter again and while the gear was out, I shot a little carb cleaner up at it hopefully to "ungum" it. I tried to start it again, and Clunk. I repeated those stepas again about 5 more time with the same results. Is the starter bad, or something else? Thanks for your answers and patience.
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