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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: ArcticCuda] #32618
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Blast from the past...

Are these cams still available?




They should be, I'm thinking of ordering one myself .

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: JohnRR] #32619
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So when using Bobs cam you run basically stock 906 heads and exhaust manifolds? What does he recommend for compression? I really want to give his cam a try. I need to go through my 70 440 6 pack motor and was curious what needs to be done per Bobs recommendations. Thanks

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #32620
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So when using Bobs cam you run basically stock 906 heads and exhaust manifolds? What does he recommend for compression? I really want to give his cam a try. I need to go through my 70 440 6 pack motor and was curious what needs to be done per Bobs recommendations. Thanks




Bob's cam is basically a stock replacement that will pass tech for the Pure Stock drags, but it's a little different than stock. Build your engine to Pure Stock spec , either stock compression ratio as advertised by the factory or +1.5 as allowed by the current rules , though the PS guys would rather people build to factory spec.

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: JohnRR] #32621
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Dyno operator chuckled and told me
400 horse , he can tell by idle.
His hand flew off the throttle when the outboards
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It REAlly idles like a 318 stationwagon


Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: sogtx] #32622
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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: macmic87] #32623
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I recently installed his cam in my car, which is a stock 440 with 800 cfm Edelbrock AVS, repro Accurate Limited exhaust.

My engine builder was initially skeptical of the cam and tried to get me to do not only a different cam, but the typical headers, aluminum intake, holley route. On this particular car, it wasn't what I was going for. So, the only mods to the engine were internal, .020 over, slight bowl work, adjustable rockers and the carb mentioned. I only have around 100 miles on it so far, but the engine builder was pretty impressed with how it pulled. It's a 69 Charger 4spd with 3.54 gears and both the builder and I are way over 200lbs.

Once I get a few more miles on it, and tune on the carb a little more, play with the timing a little, I'll dyno test it and maybe get a 1/4 mile run in at a local track.

Unfortunately, there's no telling when that will be. I just don't get much quality time with the car anymore.

Here's a short video of it idling.

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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Dixie] #32624
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What are you guys running for ets with the Mr six pack cam? Also whats the combo? Thanks

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Dixie] #32625
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Mine runs good too;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofma0go-jJk&feature=g-upl

440, stock "6-pack " rods, Ross NHRA legal replacement pistons in .030, 10.75:1, unported 906's w. comp cams #911-16 springs, Mopar performance 4006767 lifters (preload set at 0.010", crane adjustable roller rockers, Bob's cam installed straight up, stock manifolds (with heat crossover flapper removed), 2.5" TTI exhaust with Dynomax Ultraflows, 727 with stock converter and "Hemi" internals plus a good shift kit, 4.10 clutch type SG 8 3/4. Carbs rebuilt by Bill O. with jetting and springs as per Bob K. and Jim S.

the engine is very strong, wish I would have put it on an engine dyno before putting it in the car but there wasn't one locally...oh well, should be on the track this summer and timeslips don't lie.



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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #32626
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What are you guys running for ets with the Mr six pack cam? Also whats the combo? Thanks




My combo is as per the preceeding thread and is all as per my discussions with the PS guys including several with Bob. I haven't run mine yet, but there are many PS cars out there running his cam; times are basically 12.0 flat and up depending on the usual factors. You can expect mid to high 12's depending on how close you want to get to the extent of the PS rules as well as car set up, etc. etc. My personal goal was to duplicate the 69.5 RR Ronnie Sox test time of 12.91.

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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: ArcticCuda] #32627
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Blast from the past...

Are these cams still available?





Pepe, it's not so long time ago when I sent you a pic of Bob's cam package after I had bought one.
I don't find any reason why they would not be available at the moment.

Call to Bob, he's a great guy and purchase the cam from him

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: AutoEngineer] #32628
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DPelltier, Awesome video love it. Hope to have the same setup in the R/T. Please post your times when you get to the track. Take care.

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #32629
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DPelltier, Awesome video love it. Hope to have the same setup in the R/T. Please post your times when you get to the track. Take care.




Thanks and will do.
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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: DPelletier] #32630
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Anyone in the upper 12s with a stock 440 on pump gas?


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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Dodge] #32631
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I just order a cam from him.... going to pull the motor in Cindy and make the change. (383 Stroker (438) with everything else stock.) I dyno'd the motor with the cam the engine builder selected and it was good, but it just didn't idle as smooth as I wanted it to. You can come over and hear it / drive it when the new cam is in.

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Anyone in the upper 12s with a stock 440 on pump gas?




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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Cuda Cody] #32632
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Will come check it out Cody. I have a cam sitting here. Just not sure on which route to build an engine. All the A12 running low 12s are on race fuel.

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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Dodge] #32633
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Anyone in the upper 12s with a stock 440 on pump gas?




...depends what you mean by "stock". If you mean "as rolled off the assy line" then I'm gonna say no. Certainly the low 12 sec. cars are running too much compression (combined with the cam's high cranking pressures as well as the detonation prone stock cast 906 heads) to run on pump gas. The general consensus of the Ronnie Sox A12 RR test was that the car was "tweeked". The fact that none of the other 440-6 road tests from "back in the day" are in the 12's would seem to support this contention.

According to "them in the know" it would be possible to run a lower compression, Pure Stock legal, 440-6 that should break into the 12's and run on pump gas, but you are definitely not going to run with the top dogs in PS at that compression level.



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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: DPelletier] #32634
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Broke in the 383 cam I got from Mr. Six pack two days ago on the engine stand and put the motor back in the car today.

Let me back up and say that my engine builder came highly recommended and with everything else on the build he did great, but he had his "connection" cam company custom grid a custom cam for my motor and after 100 miles I knew it had to come out. It just wasn't right and wasn't running good. Spoke with Bob (Mr. Six Pack) and had him send me one of his grinds to see if it was better. Let me tell you I could not be any happier! The car runs fantastically and is really responsive. I'm running stock stuff (stock intake, heads, exhaust manifolds, carb) and the car feels so much stronger with Mr. Six Packs grind compared to the grind my engine builder put in. Plus it idles and runs so much better.

I would STRONGLY recommend Bob (Mr. Six Pack) to anyone who is looking for a cam grind.

Has anyone used his 340 six pack grind?


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Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: Dodge] #32635
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Will come check it out Cody. I have a cam sitting here. Just not sure on which route to build an engine. All the A12 running low 12s are on race fuel.




That's because they are/were built to NHRA spec which puts the compression over what it actually rolled off the assembly line with.

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: JohnRR] #32636
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I've got one of Bob's cams going into my 383 Road Runner.

It sure is fun watching the Mr. 6Pack powered A12 cars tearing up the 1/4 mile - http://youtu.be/OFaPlDt2jt4

Re: Looking For Mr. Six Pack Cam Information [Re: CompSyn] #32637
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I'll be talking to Bob this week for a cam for the Dart .

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