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I lost an end one for a 516 head so before I look for one are the ones on the 62-63 max wedge head the same?

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I lost an end one for a 516 head so before I look for one are the ones on the 62-63 max wedge head the same?

Mopar quit using that type of rocker shaft hold owns on B and RB motors in 1963, none of the later head 6 bolt rocker arms heads like all the 516 head came with them on the motors is what I'm remembering twocents
I've only had 1 or 2 sets of the 1964 stage Three M.W. head casting that came with the 6 bolt valve covers and the later rocker shaft hold downs so I may be wrong on ALL the real early stage three castings having the built in rocker shaft stands work shruggy

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I lost an end one for a 516 head so before I look for one are the ones on the 62-63 max wedge head the same?

Mopar quit using that type of rocker shaft hold owns on B and RB motors in 1963, none of the later head 6 bolt rocker arms heads like all the 516 head came with them on the motors is what I'm remembering twocents
I've only had 1 or 2 sets of the 1964 stage Three M.W. head casting that came with the 6 bolt valve covers and the later rocker shaft hold downs so I may be wrong on ALL the real early stage three castings having the built in rocker shaft stands work shruggy

Well my 63 max had stands like the one pictured, reason I asked if they were the same as 516 head

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The parts book does show a difference in the MW bracket, don't know why. shruggy

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The ductile iron adjustable rocker arms are wider so the hold downs need to be narrower, Mopar added small bosses, ears, on both sides at the top for the stamp steel rocker stands, they can be used by removing, them wrench no big deal scope up

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The ductile iron adjustable rocker arms are wider so the hold downs need to be narrower, Mopar added small bosses, ears, on both sides at the top for the stamp steel rocker stands, they can be used by removing, them wrench no big deal scope up

I’ll be using the iron rockers, I can see what you’re saying about that edge part. If I could run across a set of 67 heads (915) with small exhaust I won’t need to do the 516 heads. I want to keep the closed chamber.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The ductile iron adjustable rocker arms are wider so the hold downs need to be narrower, Mopar added small bosses, ears, on both sides at the top for the stamp steel rocker stands, they can be used by removing, them wrench no big deal scope up

I’ll be using the iron rockers, I can see what you’re saying about that edge part. If I could run across a set of 67 heads (915) with small exhaust I won’t need to do the 516 heads. I want to keep the closed chamber.


You know that newer 516 heads also have the cast in rocker holders and have the closed chamber? If you are ok with 516 why not just go with a newer 516?


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My 64 300 had those hold downs, the engine was stamped with a T then over stamped with a V. I think those head casting numbers, 4 bolt valve cover, rocker stands, ended in 3200?

I couldn't get the aluminum stands off the steel shafts so my solution was to get a set of NOS 906 heads from Len Dawson, this was in the late 80's when you could still get them.

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Originally Posted by markz528
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The ductile iron adjustable rocker arms are wider so the hold downs need to be narrower, Mopar added small bosses, ears, on both sides at the top for the stamp steel rocker stands, they can be used by removing, them wrench no big deal scope up

I’ll be using the iron rockers, I can see what you’re saying about that edge part. If I could run across a set of 67 heads (915) with small exhaust I won’t need to do the 516 heads. I want to keep the closed chamber.


You know that newer 516 heads also have the cast in rocker holders and have the closed chamber? If you are ok with 516 why not just go with a newer 516?

Yes could do that, I looked at a 64 413 that had those ($500 no intake) but I went with the 413 industrial block with no heads because of the block. It’s just that I have the 63 set on hand.

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The Max Wedge rocker stand does not have the little extension at the top inner edge. Some people grind the edge off and pass them off as original.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The ductile iron adjustable rocker arms are wider so the hold downs need to be narrower, Mopar added small bosses, ears, on both sides at the top for the stamp steel rocker stands, they can be used by removing, them wrench no big deal scope up

I’ll be using the iron rockers, I can see what you’re saying about that edge part. If I could run across a set of 67 heads (915) with small exhaust I won’t need to do the 516 heads. I want to keep the closed chamber.


You know that newer 516 heads also have the cast in rocker holders and have the closed chamber? If you are ok with 516 why not just go with a newer 516?

Yes could do that, I looked at a 64 413 that had those ($500 no intake) but I went with the 413 industrial block with no heads because of the block. It’s just that I have the 63 set on hand.


I was in your backyard on Friday. I could of brought you a set of newer 516's.


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I've remove the stands, it wasn't easy though wrench I think I used a plastic hammer head and drove them off so I could grind some of the rocker main body narrower and to add shims as needed to help position the rocker pad on the center of the valve stems better.
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Originally Posted by markz528
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You know that newer 516 heads also have the cast in rocker holders and have the closed chamber? If you are ok with 516 why not just go with a newer 516?

Yes could do that, I looked at a 64 413 that had those ($500 no intake) but I went with the 413 industrial block with no heads because of the block. It’s just that I have the 63 set on hand.


I was in your backyard on Friday. I could of brought you a set of newer 516's.

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I bought several sets of the Mopar brand steel W2 race hold downs years ago, there still in one of the parts cabinet waiting for me to use them realcrazy shruggy


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