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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: larrymopar360] #3137030
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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
Originally Posted by OrangeProwler
This is all great to know about the reproduction seal. I'll add this to the thread, from what I understand if you can find a factory seal the new aftermarket glass doesn't play well either from what I understand because the aftermarket windshield isn't as thick as the factory windshield.
Yep I bought a new windshield thinking I was doing the right thing since there was mild delamination around the edges and I was putting in a new seal anyway. WRONG. Thinner glass, chitty new seals, bad combination. Professional installers two tries still struggled big time. I've learned a painful lesson.

Made the same kind of mistake several years ago replacing an old gas tank. Figured that was the time to replace sending unit even though old factory one still working fine. Big mistake. Spectra (sp?) branded tank was fine but the sending unit sucked and never worked right. Should've just cleaned the old one and kept it in tank!!!!

I have said over and over again, the biggest hurdle to clear with keeping these old trucks on the road is the sh!t poor quality of replacement parts for them, and that is if you can even get them. If you can't figure away to fabricate what you need or at least make what you can get fit and work, you are going to have a rough time of it.


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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: Guitar Jones] #3137153
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Very true ^

With the span of years these windshields and seals fit one would think there's enough market for them to have more than Precision manufacturing replacement products. But even if there was I guess it still might be junk nowadays.


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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: larrymopar360] #3137166
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Youd also think that with all the issues going on they would correct them because it's all around bad for business. Well I guess not when they're all coming from one company but if someone else started making parts like the seals properly people would jump ship pretty quick.

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: 5thAve] #3137226
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There you all go, a marketing plan to get rich and corner a market.

Invest the millions of dollars to develop, design and build a manufacturing company to make wonderful replacement windshield gaskets for 73-93 Dodge trucks. Then all you need to do is hire a hundred or so dedicated employees that show up to work every day and actually produce products of high quality.

Then once you get the corner on the market for those windshield gaskets, which shouldn't take long, I'm sure countless other items will be on your client wish list your company can design, manufacture and market. You can be the King in the Mopar restoration service supply lines.

Good luck!

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: poorboy] #3137343
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Originally Posted by poorboy
There you all go, a marketing plan to get rich and corner a market.

Invest the millions of dollars to develop, design and build a manufacturing company to make wonderful replacement windshield gaskets for 73-93 Dodge trucks. Then all you need to do is hire a hundred or so dedicated employees that show up to work every day and actually produce products of high quality.

Then once you get the corner on the market for those windshield gaskets, which shouldn't take long, I'm sure countless other items will be on your client wish list your company can design, manufacture and market. You can be the King in the Mopar restoration service supply lines.

Good luck!
Okay okay, we forgot. This is the new America. Ain't gonna work.


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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: larrymopar360] #3137526
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There should be at least one other company around already making the rubber seals that could do it properly without much trouble,
I guess maybe that's what the problem really is? They probably took a seal that was close, cut it to fit Dodge windshields and called it done even tho there were enough differences to not work properly.

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: poorboy] #3148443
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Originally Posted by poorboy
There you all go, a marketing plan to get rich and corner a market.

Invest the millions of dollars to develop, design and build a manufacturing company to make wonderful replacement windshield gaskets for 73-93 Dodge trucks. Then all you need to do is hire a hundred or so dedicated employees that show up to work every day and actually produce products of high quality.

Then once you get the corner on the market for those windshield gaskets, which shouldn't take long, I'm sure countless other items will be on your client wish list your company can design, manufacture and market. You can be the King in the Mopar restoration service supply lines.

Good luck!


HA! Or the guys that tell me all the time, "if you make this widget you'll sell a million". I tell them YOU make it and I'll buy from you. Crickets smile

A local guy came in with a mid 70's truck he had restored. Said his windshield guy, a guy that just does muscle car era stuff (not Jake from State Farm squirting urethane from a tube), said it fit great. How can that be? Maybe he has a rare truck? I just looked, I've sold nearly 3000 and bet I've only had a couple complaints. Maybe there are 2900 people that accepterd a poor fit BUT TRUST ME, if someones 5yo daughter can't figure it out, THEY CALL. So no news is good news.

It's the same with 66-70 B body 2DHT windshield seal. I've probably sold 10,000. Over the course of those 10,000 sales people have told me the other brands they purchased that didn't work but the PRP does.

Lastly, you have to ask if the company you are buying from makes the product or is reselling. I do. There are a few companies that double the price (or more) on a product and resell it. I bought an early A body convertible windshield seal from one scammer just to verify. It was just the std non convertible seal but at 2.5X the price! The ONLY difference between the 2 is not the fit but a 3/8" "lip" along the top that covers a gap. A local guy showed me and said if you don't point it out, no one will know. A convertible seal IS NOT being reproduced for earl A bodies.

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: 71TA] #3148602
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I don't care what you say, they fit like sh!t!


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: 71TA] #3148613
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Here is my 92 that was replaced last year at this time. Fits great huh?

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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: Guitar Jones] #3148614
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Here is the original gasket in my 74.

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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: Guitar Jones] #3148748
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The factory one doesn't fit that well either.

Can confirm that's normal, I'm on number 12 currently.


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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: ruderunner] #3148763
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It probably fit better 50 years ago laugh2


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Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: Guitar Jones] #3148847
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I really didn't pay much attention to the OEM rubber windshield (or rear window for that matter) gasket fit back in the day, but I can tell you they sealed a lot better then the current replacements. Fit wasn't a concern back then, but dry was.

But just for the record, anything that has been available for the 50s era Dodge truck glass over the last 20 years has sucked. I'm probably going to pull this last one out of my 49, and add a wider steel lip and have the glass bonded in. It won't be original looking, but it will be sealed.

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: poorboy] #3150489
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Found some more information in this thread here. Confirms what most are writing here with a few extra tidbits of information thrown in the mix: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/1st-gen-ram-all-topics-93/windshield-leak-h-ll-332258/

Re: 1992 D250, new Steele Rubber issues... [Re: OrangeProwler] #3150584
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Originally Posted by OrangeProwler
Found some more information in this thread here. Confirms what most are writing here with a few extra tidbits of information thrown in the mix: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/1st-gen-ram-all-topics-93/windshield-leak-h-ll-332258/


Post #30 in that thread is the way I have always done rubber gaskets, clean everything, put the goop in the pinch weld channel of the rubber, install the rubber, install the glass, more goop in the glass channel, install lock strip. A body, b body, and truck.

Very messy, clean up with thinner or gas, or wait for it to set up, and scrape it off the glass.

A helper is nice, but usually its just me.

I have been told that is not the proper way to do it, use a rope, etc, but just me and some plastic tools or make them from old broom handles, shape the ends on the grinder.

I have never roped one in, but I have watched done.


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