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RIP Barry Newman #3148633
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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: kidmopar] #3148638
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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: FM3AAR] #3148643
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A SUPERCHARGED Challenger?

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
A SUPERCHARGED Challenger?


A Latham could have fit under the hood... maybe.

latham supercharger.jpg

July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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So hard to believe he was 92. I don't think I ever saw him in anything else so he was always that age.


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Embarrassed to say I've never seen VP.
Where can i find it?

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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: stumpy] #3148660
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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: BDW] #3148682
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Originally Posted by BDW
Embarrassed to say I've never seen VP.
Where can i find it?


145 minute version --> https://ok.ru/video/991982914073 <--

138 minute version --> https://ok.ru/video/1430882814662 <--

OK dot RU is a safe movie site, no ads, at least with my ad blocker.

Don't know what was cut or added to make the difference in the two versions.

If you don't go full screen, it will ask you to sign in. If you go full screen, it won't ask you to sign in.


July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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[/quote]Don't know what was cut or added to make the difference in the two versions.
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The deleted scene in the US version shows Kowalski driving through the night in route to San Francisco when he stops to pick up an attractive hitchhiker dressed in black, played by Charlotte Rampling. As they drive in awkward silence she starts to smoke marijuana and offers Kowalski a drag. This scene was cut from the U.S. release partly because it shows people smoking weed.


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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: John Brown] #3148692
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This might be heresy, but my god, that has to be 1 of the worst movies ever made!
If it wasn't for the Challenger it's a complete zero.

Oh well, now I've seen it.

Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: cudaman1969] #3148693
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
A SUPERCHARGED Challenger?


From a police radio call. About 38:55 in the 1:45 version.

This is car 44 reading you loud and clear, over.

Where are you, car 44?

We're on 80, some ten miles from Argenta, over.

Oh, good. Stay with it. Watch for a white Challenger, licence plates initial OA-5599.

Colorado plates. Last seen heading for Dunphy on US 40 at cruising speed.

We have reason to believe it's supercharged, so maintain double alert till you spot it.

Then call in for instructions. Over and out.


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Originally Posted by BDW
This might be heresy, but my god, that has to be 1 of the worst movies ever made!
If it wasn't for the Challenger it's a complete zero.

Oh well, now I've seen it.


Evidently you watched the 1997 remake and not the 1971 classic. shruggy


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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: 3hundred] #3148712
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Originally Posted by 3hundred
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
A SUPERCHARGED Challenger?


From a police radio call. About 38:55 in the 1:45 version.

This is car 44 reading you loud and clear, over.

Where are you, car 44?

We're on 80, some ten miles from Argenta, over.

Oh, good. Stay with it. Watch for a white Challenger, licence plates initial OA-5599.

Colorado plates. Last seen heading for Dunphy on US 40 at cruising speed.

We have reason to believe it's supercharged, so maintain double alert till you spot it.

Then call in for instructions. Over and out.

It’s got a Hemi.. one funny part was he found the oil pan in a junk yard, right.

Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: cudaman1969] #3148714
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God Speed Barry Newman.

I had always hoped he would be invited to Chryslers at Carlisle but that never came to be.

Some of the comments above refer to the 1997 remake starring Viggo Mortensen in the role of Kowalski.

The original 1971, starring Barry Newman, can be an acquired taste but considering the other movies being released at that time, it fits the anti-establishment style. I always enjoyed it.

Mike.

Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: moparmike1] #3148716
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A classic IMO for sure, and has always had me wanting a white 70 Challenger R/T. RIP Barry angel

Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: TJP] #3148731
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There are two trailers floating around. There may have been more, I don't know. Both are edited quite differently. One has Yellow Titles, the other has white. One refers to the car as a "Dodge Challenger" the other, simply as "Challenger". Both however mention it's supercharged. I often wonder though, if that were just street speak for "Hopped up", because by 1970, "hopped-up" referred to something else. Although, in the movie itself, Kowalski mentions: "It's hopped-up to do 160".

Trailers: Vanishing Point "Short" Trailer Vanishing Point "Long" Trailer



BDW: You're probably referencing the paper thin plot. Unfortunately, at the time 20th Century Fox was going through a bit of a shake-up. The new Head of the company did not like the whole counter-culture deal, nor the drug use or the anti-vietnam ideals being portrayed in this film. Some have even said the new CEO simply did not like Dick Sarafian. Long story short, the production of the film was CUT by over three weeks and anywhere from 1 to 3 million dollars. Several scenes that were supposed to be filmed were cut; some of which I speculate were Kowalski's flashbacks to Vietnam and or more portrayals of him having PTSD. In one interview, Mr. Newman mentioned one scene he recalls being cut was that as soon as he crossed into Nevada, he stops to have a cigarette. Well, this scene would devolve into Kowalksi breaking down into a fit and having the scene transition back to his time in Vietnam to when he gets wounded. These wounds are later referred to in another flashback with his girlfriend Vera.

Speaking of that scene, I believe some dialogue was either cut or not recorded. Vera mentions his scars and how she loves them, but how he hates them. Kowalski replies: "I don't hate them, I just hate what they mean." Vera asks: "What do they mean?" to which Kowalski does not respond. Eventually Vera continues with her "Only if we make war against war..." quote. I believe Kowalski's response mentioned his Vietnam time or a scene that wasn't filmed. So they had to do a dirty edit to cover that.

I believe these trims and edits DO exist. On the back of the Japanese Video disc, there are two pictures. One of Kowalski breaking up a fight between two kids on bikes and his friend Jake, and another photo of a very 5-o'clock shadowed Kowalski which I think was something from either the end of the movie or the bit at the beginning which refers to the end. Not 100% sure.

Other actors from the film mention filming scenes that weren't in the film. Some sources say Cleavon Little filmed his scenes in less than 3 days, while an interview with Cleavon says he was on set for at least a week.

Regardless, we've all learned that a LOT of the plot was left on the cutting room floor. Much like Two Lane Blacktop; much of the story was lost just to maintain a cohesive story that wasn't 3 or 4 hours long.

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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: That AMC Guy] #3148758
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RIP. I loved the original and actually enjoy the remake as well.

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Re: RIP Barry Newman [Re: 65pacecar] #3148816
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Wow, just so sad. I was wondering how long he would be with us.

I somehow found his California address circa 2001, and snail mailed him pics of my VP replica.

He autographed them, and returned to me with a nice note.

He passed on May 11th, my 70th birthday.

I’m glad I had some interaction with him, if only by written correspondence. angel


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