Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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If the race car is part of a business, the monetary loss is tax deductible as a business expense (along with entry fees, mileage, rebuilding parts, tires, supplies consumed by the car. ads for your shop, phone bill, at least part of our rent (% used exclusively for the car). IIRC the business does not have to make money, but at least attempt to do so, check with your accountant.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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This thread has just made me glad I learned how to build my entire drivetrain myself when I was a younger man. I've been a mechanic for other people for 45 years so maybe it's time to retire and open my own performance drivetrain shop Hey BigDad I hope your new transmission works and lives a long life in your new project. Gus
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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This thread has just made me glad I learned how to build my entire drivetrain myself when I was a younger man. Same here! I have friends that have had to have transmissions rebuilt this Summer and and it seems like 3-4 months lead time along with big $$$ out of pocket. I can order up a kit and have the transmission rebuilt in a day for under $200.00. I make it a point to learn how to do most everything myself and minimize having to rely on others.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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If I would of gotten what I paid for , you can't build that for $200 , and again for the umpteenth time , it can't be near as simple as one would think ..
since JOHN COPE made a mess of things , he is supposed to know what he is doing ..and my new guy is still trying to figure out just what all is wrong ..
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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One of the positives of the internet (they're plenty of negatives) is that business can be called out and confronted on a scale previously not possible with their mistakes/incompetence/dishonesty and just plain unacceptable practices. Pre internet it was just word of mouth which went no where. Magazines never pointed out dishonesty because that business was one of their advertisers. Harold of Spitfire headers- his product was legit. His business started legit. But after some time he gladly took your money while never intending on delivering your headers. The early internet got the word out- albeit a bit too late to NOT send him $$. In the early 2000s the Mopar Hemi crate engines were self destructing. One of the big of two car mags called the accusations BS and called the accusers basically liars. That was when Hemi crate engine building was taken from a well known competent builder (I forget ) and given to the Cummins division. Those Cummins built Hemis had a super high failure rate. The early internet did spread the word although many still got screwed.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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sadly, I did ask around., spoke to at very least 5 people all were backed up months if not years on orders to build it then , little did I know from the start it took almost that anyway and since it was a complete POS here I am , should of just waited for anyone other than JOHN COPE CRT Transmissions
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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One of the positives of the internet (they're plenty of negatives) is that business can be called out and confronted on a scale previously not possible with their mistakes/incompetence/dishonesty and just plain unacceptable practices. Pre internet it was just word of mouth which went no where. Magazines never pointed out dishonesty because that business was one of their advertisers. Harold of Spitfire headers- his product was legit. His business started legit. But after some time he gladly took your money while never intending on delivering your headers. The early internet got the word out- albeit a bit too late to NOT send him $$. In the early 2000s the Mopar Hemi crate engines were self destructing. One of the big of two car mags called the accusations BS and called the accusers basically liars. That was when Hemi crate engine building was taken from a well known competent builder (I forget ) and given to the Cummins division. Those Cummins built Hemis had a super high failure rate. The early internet did spread the word although many still got screwed. I remember those days. A guy tried to unload one on me out of the blue. I pointed out how many people were on the forums complaining of many issues. Before that it was the slow word of mouth and the magazines ran blocker for people stuffing their pockets with dollars.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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a 727 or 904 transmission is pretty easy to rebuild. just pick up a copy of the Monroe book, plus a manual from the ATSG for your transmission. then get the upgrade parts you need or want, and have at. if i can do one, anyone can.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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w/r/t civil judgment against the shop: If you win, you may not get your attorney's fees or filing costs, and the Court does not collect your money, you have to do that.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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Here is a link to a New York "dual acknowledgment" form: what the Notary does. Don't trust the Notary to understand this, many don't (I was a Notary for 25 years). New York dual acknowledgment form
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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a 727 or 904 transmission is pretty easy to rebuild. just pick up a copy of the Monroe book, plus a manual from the ATSG for your transmission. then get the upgrade parts you need or want, and have at. if i can do one, anyone can. Lots of videos on youtube for disassembly and putting them back together. The old 727 rebuild video from technical videos is good, Paul Zank IIRC. Plenty of watchables out there. REALLY simple transmissions 904 & 727. Hate to say it, but there is no black magic in these things that require 2K+ bills for a transmission only that most in here would use. 727 suck because to do it right you need the expensive front drum. If not for that, they would be much more reasonable to build. 727 needs drum, sprag, good valve body and rebuild kit and go. Whatever bands you want are out there. Give a fish, learn to fish deal. Even if you build it and it has an issue, better to use the resources here to help solve it than to freight it back and wait, you'd be pulling it either way. One of my favorites was my friend got sold a story about the teflon seals vs the usual ones. CRT seals show up and the bag has the same part number as the cheap wholesale house had except were 2x the price. Lesson learned The fibers/steels, seals etc are all from the same suppliers if you have a wholesale location to buy from, nothing special about them. TB valve bodies sure got expensive....
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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Yeah back in the day the only real feedback you get about parts suppliers and shops was if you weren't the guinea pig and one of your friends dipped their toes in first... There was more than one occasion where I did business with a company that was given mad props by some of the magazines or article writers, and those companies turned out to be complete pieces of you know what. That was pretty dirtballish back then, the mags would write glowing articles, get free parts for their projects but never talk about the junk that actually didn't work. I think that's why some of those 6-10 issue long builds would suddenly disappear from the magazines never to be seen again. There were a few mags I just quit buying because I knew they were bs'ing. What's a "mad prop"?
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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Yeah back in the day the only real feedback you get about parts suppliers and shops was if you weren't the guinea pig and one of your friends dipped their toes in first... There was more than one occasion where I did business with a company that was given mad props by some of the magazines or article writers, and those companies turned out to be complete pieces of you know what. That was pretty dirtballish back then, the mags would write glowing articles, get free parts for their projects but never talk about the junk that actually didn't work. I think that's why some of those 6-10 issue long builds would suddenly disappear from the magazines never to be seen again. There were a few mags I just quit buying because I knew they were bs'ing. What's a "mad prop"? compliment
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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it runs , just doesn't move
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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it runs , just doesn't move If this stuff was easy, everyone would be doing it. You will get it sorted out. Heck even my Liberty had issues right out of the box, but Liberty took care of the issue immediately. Mistakes happen. It's how the company takes care of those issues is what matters.
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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems
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One mistake I can live with , two .. Ok, kind of understand that too but, this thing isa full of them. and the hits keep coming ( and the bills ) and no resposiblity from John Cope of CRT ..
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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