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Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. #3138955
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https://windowsreport.com/best-browser-for-windows-xp/

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Internet Explorer is the default browser on Windows XP, but one that is badly outdated and poses security risks.
The best browsers for Windows XP and other old operating systems must be light on PC resource usage.
Another must-have feature is high security and privacy against the prying eyes on the internet.
...snip...

Top 3

Opera – Opera remains one of the most preferred options in Windows XP and even later iterations. It offers advanced features and employs the latest security protocols.
SlimJet – SlimJet is another popular option in Windows XP and is used by many for its high speed and dedicated download manager.
UC Browser – With a built-in ad blocker and the ability to detect and eliminate viruses, UC Browser is a popular choice for Windows XP users.

7 other choices

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A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
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Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Not what the OP wants to hear, but it's the truth.


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My garage laptop is an XP machine. I use it mostly for reading PDF's in the garage and occasionally a YouTube how to video, but I have no personal info on it.

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: MarkZ] #3139049
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Not what the OP wants to hear, but it's the truth.


If you have read my past posts I am a big fan of linux, live linux cd’s and even worked briefly for Red Hat in the 1990s.

I even made the whopper mistake of not buying Bitcoin for $1 per Bitcoin at a TRILUG ( Triangle Linux Users Group) meeting.

A second question is:
“what are modern techniques available to protect no longer supported operating systems like XP, older Apple products, older Android versions, etc from malware where they connect to the internet?

But I am no longer at the top of the game, it seems.

I was not a member of the Discord server in OG’s chat room.
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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139133
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Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Yep! Typing this on an old Dell Vista laptop running Linux Mint. Works fantastic!!

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139138
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Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Well it really depends what it will be used for, doesn't it.
Of course not for the ONLY PC you have, where you perform/store financial/personal info.
But fine as a Secondary, for just say using this forum.

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Originally Posted by 360view
https://windowsreport.com/best-browser-for-windows-xp/

sample quote

Internet Explorer is the default browser on Windows XP, but one that is badly outdated and poses security risks.
The best browsers for Windows XP and other old operating systems must be light on PC resource usage.
Another must-have feature is high security and privacy against the prying eyes on the internet.
...snip...

Top 3

Opera – Opera remains one of the most preferred options in Windows XP and even later iterations. It offers advanced features and employs the latest security protocols.
SlimJet – SlimJet is another popular option in Windows XP and is used by many for its high speed and dedicated download manager.
UC Browser – With a built-in ad blocker and the ability to detect and eliminate viruses, UC Browser is a popular choice for Windows XP users.

7 other choices

end quote


FWIW: I prefer opera and am on windows 10 twocents

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: PhillyRag] #3139154
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Well it really depends what it will be used for, doesn't it.
Of course not for the ONLY PC you have, where you perform/store financial/personal info.
But fine as a Secondary, for just say using this forum.


Uhh...this forum is an ad monster! If you're surfing here on an ancient/unprotected machine, you AND the network you are connected to are vulnerable. Not a good idea. Linux is your friend for old machines surfing the net.

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: Dcuda69] #3139165
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Originally Posted by Dcuda69
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Well it really depends what it will be used for, doesn't it.
Of course not for the ONLY PC you have, where you perform/store financial/personal info.
But fine as a Secondary, for just say using this forum.


Uhh...this forum is an ad monster! If you're surfing here on an ancient/unprotected machine, you AND the network you are connected to are vulnerable. Not a good idea. Linux is your friend for old machines surfing the net.


Listen to this! Absolutely 100% true. I work in I.T. and the malware uptick in the last year has been insane. Think you’re not vulnerable because you don’t do any financial stuff on that dinosaur computer? Think again. There are plenty of back doors that hackers can use on an old computer to gain access to everything on your network.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: TJP] #3139190
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Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by 360view
https://windowsreport.com/best-browser-for-windows-xp/

sample quote

Internet Explorer is the default browser on Windows XP, but one that is badly outdated and poses security risks.
The best browsers for Windows XP and other old operating systems must be light on PC resource usage.
Another must-have feature is high security and privacy against the prying eyes on the internet.
...snip...

Top 3

Opera – Opera remains one of the most preferred options in Windows XP and even later iterations. It offers advanced features and employs the latest security protocols.
SlimJet – SlimJet is another popular option in Windows XP and is used by many for its high speed and dedicated download manager.
UC Browser – With a built-in ad blocker and the ability to detect and eliminate viruses, UC Browser is a popular choice for Windows XP users.

7 other choices

end quote


FWIW: I prefer opera and am on windows 10 twocents


11 is better, been using it for months now. My work laptop was still on 10 and every time I needed to use it, it had to do 20 mins worth of updates and restarts. 11 manages the updates way better!

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by 360view
https://windowsreport.com/best-browser-for-windows-xp/

sample quote

Internet Explorer is the default browser on Windows XP, but one that is badly outdated and poses security risks.
The best browsers for Windows XP and other old operating systems must be light on PC resource usage.
Another must-have feature is high security and privacy against the prying eyes on the internet.
...snip...

Top 3

Opera – Opera remains one of the most preferred options in Windows XP and even later iterations. It offers advanced features and employs the latest security protocols.
SlimJet – SlimJet is another popular option in Windows XP and is used by many for its high speed and dedicated download manager.
UC Browser – With a built-in ad blocker and the ability to detect and eliminate viruses, UC Browser is a popular choice for Windows XP users.

7 other choices

end quote


FWIW: I prefer opera and am on windows 10 twocents


11 is better, been using it for months now. My work laptop was still on 10 and every time I needed to use it, it had to do 20 mins worth of updates and restarts. 11 manages the updates way better!

Dummy here, how to get 11 for an 8 laptop that’s basically new (never used)

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: cudaman1969] #3139388
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Dart 500
Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by 360view
https://windowsreport.com/best-browser-for-windows-xp/

sample quote

Internet Explorer is the default browser on Windows XP, but one that is badly outdated and poses security risks.
The best browsers for Windows XP and other old operating systems must be light on PC resource usage.
Another must-have feature is high security and privacy against the prying eyes on the internet.
...snip...

Top 3

Opera – Opera remains one of the most preferred options in Windows XP and even later iterations. It offers advanced features and employs the latest security protocols.
SlimJet – SlimJet is another popular option in Windows XP and is used by many for its high speed and dedicated download manager.
UC Browser – With a built-in ad blocker and the ability to detect and eliminate viruses, UC Browser is a popular choice for Windows XP users.

7 other choices

end quote


FWIW: I prefer opera and am on windows 10 twocents


11 is better, been using it for months now. My work laptop was still on 10 and every time I needed to use it, it had to do 20 mins worth of updates and restarts. 11 manages the updates way better!

Dummy here, how to get 11 for an 8 laptop that’s basically new (never used)


Probably can't do it, it probably doesn't meet the hardware requirements.

Biggest stumbling block: TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0. Almost no computers built before 2016, and some later, have v 2.0

Windows 8 release date: October 26, 2012

Windows 10 release date: July 29, 2015

Support for Windows 8 ended on January 12, 2016, and support for Windows 8.1 has ended on January 10, 2023.

Eligible Windows 10 devices must be on version 2004 or later, and have installed the September 14, 2021 security update or later, to upgrade directly to Windows 11.

I have sevral Win10 machines, when support ends in 2025, they'll all become Linux boxes, Zorin OS or Linuxmint, if I elect to keep them around.


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Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: 3hundred] #3139452
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As several have already said, get rid of XP (and all Microsoft products that you can) and run Linux. There is a learning curve but it's worth it.

Typing this on a Dell Studio laptop (dual-boot with Win 7 and Linux), on Linux Mint 21.1 (Vera) XFCE and it feels a lot like Windows, but better and faster up
I've also got an old 32-bit HP laptop running Linux Mint (19.3 XFCE I think, that's the last 32-bit version) and it also works well.

Re: Old XP computer. Best Browsers to use today. [Re: lilcuda] #3139456
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Dcuda69
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by lilcuda

A Windows XP computer should NOT be on the internet. Period. End of discussion.

The best thing you can do is to load some flavor of Linux on it.


Well it really depends what it will be used for, doesn't it.
Of course not for the ONLY PC you have, where you perform/store financial/personal info.
But fine as a Secondary, for just say using this forum.


Uhh...this forum is an ad monster! If you're surfing here on an ancient/unprotected machine, you AND the network you are connected to are vulnerable. Not a good idea. Linux is your friend for old machines surfing the net.


Listen to this! Absolutely 100% true. I work in I.T. and the malware uptick in the last year has been insane. Think you’re not vulnerable because you don’t do any financial stuff on that dinosaur computer? Think again. There are plenty of back doors that hackers can use on an old computer to gain access to everything on your network.


The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin

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Originally Posted by Twostick

The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin


Only the electrical grid? Do you surf the internet on those laptops?

W7 is ok, but no longer gets security updates. W10 is great, just keep it updated.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
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You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Twostick

The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin

Only the electrical grid? Do you surf the internet on those laptops?
W7 is ok, but no longer gets security updates. W10 is great, just keep it updated.


So what if it's a "stand-alone" PC? Not connected via a router nor wifi, but internet cable directly to pc?

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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
You do realize that XP came out 22 years ago? Time for a newer computer. They are cheaper now.


Newer versions of Windows sux. They changed the UI and it was not an improvement.

My work computer is W10, I hate it.

My personal laptop is W7, garage laptop is XP.

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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by lilcuda
Originally Posted by Twostick

The only "network" any of my laptops are connected to is the electrical grid. Any security vulnerabilities there? Windows 7 and 10.

Kevin

Only the electrical grid? Do you surf the internet on those laptops?
W7 is ok, but no longer gets security updates. W10 is great, just keep it updated.


So what if it's a "stand-alone" PC? Not connected via a router nor wifi, but internet cable directly to pc?


Stand alone means no connection to the internet at all. If you are connected via a cable to the internet, it’s not really stand alone. If you have nothing of value on the computer, I guess it’s ok, but I wouldn’t do it.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
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