Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: gygeneral]
#3138859
04/17/23 08:59 PM
04/17/23 08:59 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,846
S.E. Michigan
|
I was on Rock Auto, looking for parts for my 2011 Ram, their dropdown list shows my year of Ram as the last year. Does this mean in a year from now they are going to drop 2011? Its true car companies don't want to stock parts anymore, they rely on aftermarket. It's either a conspiracy to prevent the world from servicing old cars and to prevent anyone from making any money on the parts...... ...... or.... ..... 2011 was the first year for the RAM brand as opposed to the Dodge brand, RAM model. Take your pick, but the first choice would follow traditional Moparts "Logic". Personally, I love the access to reproduction parts that I do have, but I figure the day I stop being a parts scrounger is the day I stop being a Mopar guy. The two go hand in hand and always have. But that's me and I'm nobody.
Rich H.
Esse Quam Videri
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: moparx]
#3138874
04/17/23 09:58 PM
04/17/23 09:58 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,372 Omaha Ne
TJP
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,372
Omaha Ne
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. your old boss sounds like a roll of cheap but wipe 💩
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: ZIPPY]
#3138890
04/17/23 11:15 PM
04/17/23 11:15 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,822 Between Houston & Galveston TX
SattyNoCar
Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile
|
Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,822
Between Houston & Galveston TX
|
I was on Rock Auto, looking for parts for my 2011 Ram, their dropdown list shows my year of Ram as the last year. Does this mean in a year from now they are going to drop 2011? Its true car companies don't want to stock parts anymore, they rely on aftermarket. It's either a conspiracy to prevent the world from servicing old cars and to prevent anyone from making any money on the parts......
...... or....
..... 2011 was the first year for the RAM brand as opposed to the Dodge brand, RAM model.
Take your pick, but the first choice would follow traditional Moparts "Logic".
I laughed way too hard at this comment. *sigh*
John
The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: moparx]
#3138915
04/18/23 08:09 AM
04/18/23 08:09 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162 USA
360view
Moparts resident spammer
|
Moparts resident spammer
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162
USA
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. Wall Street Journal newspaper had a fairly long article a few days ago about companies that have recently switched to concentrating their hiring on OLDER WORKERS only, because their “work ethic” advantage outweighed their “aches & pains” physical limitations. Is the best compromise to have a 65+ age worker directing a new robot that can lift 2000 lbs with one arm but whose robot fingers have the dexterity to thread a needle?
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: 360view]
#3138961
04/18/23 11:07 AM
04/18/23 11:07 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,879 Central Florida
larrymopar360
Stud Muffin
|
Stud Muffin
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,879
Central Florida
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. Wall Street Journal newspaper had a fairly long article a few days ago about companies that have recently switched to concentrating their hiring on OLDER WORKERS only, because their “work ethic” advantage outweighed their “aches & pains” physical limitations. Is the best compromise to have a 65+ age worker directing a new robot that can lift 2000 lbs with one arm but whose robot fingers have the dexterity to thread a needle? Read this as well. Talked about employers frustration with needy younger workers, and their lack of work ethic, focusing on their phones instead of work, and their overall concern with "me" over everything else while the older worker was ultra reliable, always on time and had far greater work ethic.
Facts are stubborn things.
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: gygeneral]
#3138966
04/18/23 11:17 AM
04/18/23 11:17 AM
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,063 N.W. Florida
Fat_Mike
master
|
master
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,063
N.W. Florida
|
I was on Rock Auto, looking for parts for my 2011 Ram, their dropdown list shows my year of Ram as the last year. Does this mean in a year from now they are going to drop 2011? Its true car companies don't want to stock parts anymore, they rely on aftermarket. For trucks older than 2011 you have to choose "Dodge" instead of "Ram."
Last edited by Fat_Mike; 04/18/23 03:30 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: TJP]
#3139013
04/18/23 02:23 PM
04/18/23 02:23 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,408 north of coder
moparx
"Butt Crack Bob"
|
"Butt Crack Bob"
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,408
north of coder
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. your old boss sounds like a roll of cheap but wipe 💩 the correct spelling is BUTT wipe.
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3139035
04/18/23 03:35 PM
04/18/23 03:35 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,408 north of coder
moparx
"Butt Crack Bob"
|
"Butt Crack Bob"
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,408
north of coder
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. Wall Street Journal newspaper had a fairly long article a few days ago about companies that have recently switched to concentrating their hiring on OLDER WORKERS only, because their “work ethic” advantage outweighed their “aches & pains” physical limitations. Is the best compromise to have a 65+ age worker directing a new robot that can lift 2000 lbs with one arm but whose robot fingers have the dexterity to thread a needle? Read this as well. Talked about employers frustration with needy younger workers, and their lack of work ethic, focusing on their phones instead of work, and their overall concern with "me" over everything else while the older worker was ultra reliable, always on time and had far greater work ethic. when i was working, the ONLY time i was off was during vacation days, holidays [sometimes not even then !], and in the last couple of years before retirement, the very last day of inventory time when ALL of the paperwork was collected from the inventory and sorted. i still had to deal with the paperwork afterward, but at least i didn't have to climb all over it and the racks it was stored on, to retrieve the paperwork. the other time i unexpectedly took off, was when i contracted pneumonia. i was off for a little over three weeks that time. i probably should have been off more, but as there was no "paid sick days", i had to get back to work to pay the bills. after one vicious snow storm in which we got several [3+] feet of snow, i mounted up an unmatched but same size [within an inch or so ] set of new 14" [real] winter tires [bias ply at that] i had laying around for years, and installed them on my old '74 newyorker 2dr. i was running as my daily driver at the time. i did, however, leave the skirts off, in case i got REALLY stuck. off to work i went.......[remember, i worked midnight's !] so on to the interstate i went, 18miles on it, then 3 miles to the parking lot at work. the interstate had been plowed before, but there was still a foot or more of snow on it, and the front bumper was "plowing" as i went, allowing those "real" winter tires to work, with a lot of help from the sure-grip rear with the 2.94 gears. i had to be real easy with the loud pedal, as just the tiniest bit too much, and the old 440 [with a ton of miles on it, but i don't remember just how many] would smoke them, er, break them loose in the snow......... no traffic at all [no surprise there] and both truck stops [one each east and west bound] i passed were jammed with rigs, including many parked on both sides of the entrance an exit ramps, as well as on the berms leading to and coming from those stops for at least 1/2 mile. i finally make it to work, on time no less, and early[er as i would normally be as well] ! not being surprised, i see no cars in the unplowed parking lot. as i had keys to the building, unlocked the doors, fired up the compressor, started the coffee pot [the MOST important job of all ! ] and turned on all the equipment and machines to warm up getting ready for the shift's normal run time. after 20 minutes or so, none of my guys showed and i got no phone call offs, so i started the show without them. that kept me humpin' all night to [at least try to] keep production up so the day shift could work ! my boss showed up about 6:30am, [he is usually here by 5:30-5:45] and as usual, i had HIS coffee on ! it's BETTER than the big pot i HAVE to get going for the REGULAR day shift guys............ anyway, he asks me what i'm doing there ? my shift was CALLED OFF. HUH ????????????????? I DIDN'T GET ANY CALL............... he said i "should have known better" [???????]..........but thanks [in a kind of underhanded way] for showing up and getting "something" for day shift "to do"......... [thanks.......BOSS........ ] well, that ended up as water under the bridge, and after a few company buy-outs, i'm retired, he is still there [i think] and still has a few [10 maybe ?] years to go........... and did i mention my [former] position currently pays $38.60 and i didn't even "receive the shirt" ?
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: moparx]
#3139046
04/18/23 04:18 PM
04/18/23 04:18 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,879 Central Florida
larrymopar360
Stud Muffin
|
Stud Muffin
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,879
Central Florida
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. your old boss sounds like a roll of cheap but wipe 💩 the correct spelling is BUTT wipe. Oh you and your King's English
Facts are stubborn things.
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: TJP]
#3139135
04/18/23 10:24 PM
04/18/23 10:24 PM
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,755 Phila
PhillyRag
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,755
Phila
|
It would appear that Parts Suppliers, like Car Makers, don't want to be bothered with stocking stuff past 10 years or so. If it wasn't for the reproduction market these days, really doubt any cars past 20-25 years could be restored. Use to be able to buy at least used parts for these older cars, but that's even drying up recently. More people restoring certain cars these days, which would have been parts-cars some years ago. I still have pretty good luck with Oreilly's locally on hard parts. They are usually in town or a day away. All of the others including Napa, Advance etc And where do you think Oreilly's gets those parts to sell?? They don't make them. When their source(s) are dried up, so will they. YearOne did the same years ago, when they were selling NOS OEM parts. But not so much these days.
Last edited by PhillyRag; 04/18/23 10:24 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3139139
04/18/23 10:33 PM
04/18/23 10:33 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,372 Omaha Ne
TJP
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,372
Omaha Ne
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. your old boss sounds like a roll of cheap but wipe 💩 the correct spelling is BUTT wipe. Oh you and your King's English I was afraid it would get censored or I might get another no warning lockout 💩🙄😳
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: SattyNoCar]
#3139188
04/19/23 06:12 AM
04/19/23 06:12 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,846
S.E. Michigan
|
I was on Rock Auto, looking for parts for my 2011 Ram, their dropdown list shows my year of Ram as the last year. Does this mean in a year from now they are going to drop 2011? Its true car companies don't want to stock parts anymore, they rely on aftermarket. It's either a conspiracy to prevent the world from servicing old cars and to prevent anyone from making any money on the parts......
...... or....
..... 2011 was the first year for the RAM brand as opposed to the Dodge brand, RAM model.
Take your pick, but the first choice would follow traditional Moparts "Logic".
I laughed way too hard at this comment. *sigh* A memory you might enjoy...I know I enjoyed the look back:
Rich H.
Esse Quam Videri
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3139195
04/19/23 07:33 AM
04/19/23 07:33 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,720 North Dakota
6PakBee
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,720
North Dakota
|
i don't know how it is around you Larry, but the outfit i retired from [it was Rockwell International when i started there in 1973] after 45 years as a master machinist and shift supervisor, is, and has been begging for workers in all positions and shifts for years, and can't get workers. even after raising starting wages to $15.50 per hour ! it took me 15 years to get to that wage, and when i retired, i was only making $19.90 per hour ! my position pays $38.60 per hour now, after the latest company buy out. [ ] i asked my old boss for a company t-shirt, and he told me i don't work there anymore, so i was SOL. your old boss sounds like a roll of cheap but wipe 💩 the correct spelling is BUTT wipe. Oh you and your King's English Grow up with a Mother who was a substitute English teacher.
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
|
|
|
Re: Current State of Restoration Parts
[Re: AndyF]
#3139491
04/20/23 12:01 PM
04/20/23 12:01 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028 The Grand State of Confusion-O...
SKR8PN
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
The Grand State of Confusion-O...
|
I've stopped building project cars because the cost is super high, parts are hard to find and most important, a LOT of reproduction parts are useless garbage.
I just got sick of paying top dollar and waiting for weeks for parts that were total garbage when they showed up. I'd say that roughly 90% of the reproduction stuff made in China is garbage. On my last project I threw a lot of parts straight in the trash rather than even trying to put it on the car. This right here is why I am buying the nicest car I could find. It was not cheap but it was a LOT cheaper than messing around with another project. I am picking up the car the first week of May, will post pics then.
Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.
|
|
|
|
|