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“White” letter tires #3136806 04/09/23 07:50 PM 04/09/23 07:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 597 R robertop OP mopar
robertop OP mopar R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 597	I am so disappointed by my Goodrich radial GT tires, with the white letters turning gray in just few years and my car garaged basically for the same time. I found out that the only way to go back to white was to actually to sand the gray carefully, but now it’s happening again! I am ready to dump the set and go to a different company. Can you guys recommend tires with permanent white letters? Thank you.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: robertop] #3136808 04/09/23 08:03 PM 04/09/23 08:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,404 Central Pa M moparjim79 pro stock
moparjim79 pro stock M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,404 Central Pa	From my experience, no such thing anymore. Even tires offered without white letters are turning brown almost immediately after cleaning them(cleaning, not "dressing") I even have a set of tires on my work truck that have silica in them, they brown up really fast. Tires ain't what they used to be

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: moparjim79] #3136832 04/09/23 09:24 PM 04/09/23 09:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,942 WI Dcuda69 master
Dcuda69 master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,942 WI	Any white letter will get dark over time...that''s why I don't like them...turns into another thing that requires attention. With that said I do have white letter Coopers on my truck(long story as to why I didn't mount them in...still regretting that decision) the best I have found so far is a Scotchbrite pad in some car wash soap. Cleans them up great but they will darken by the next wash time.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: Dcuda69] #3136839 04/09/23 09:49 PM 04/09/23 09:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,509 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,509 Eagle, Idaho	Bug and tar remover is good for getting the brown film off sidewalls You can use it on raised white letters with a bristle brush as well.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: Neil] #3136849 04/09/23 10:40 PM 04/09/23 10:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,574 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,574 md	magic eraser

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: Neil] #3136851 04/09/23 10:40 PM 04/09/23 10:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,712 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,712 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	I am surprised that someone hasn't come up with a sealant for the white letters so the dirt just rinses off. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: robertop] #3136852 04/09/23 10:43 PM 04/09/23 10:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,500 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,500 N.E. OHIO, USA	A little contact or brake cleaner sprayed on a rag works. Try it first on a letter or two, try lacquer thinner on a rag it might work for you also?

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: A12] #3136886 04/10/23 06:46 AM 04/10/23 06:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 975 rust belt M Moparite super stock
Moparite super stock M Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 975 rust belt	You can install brake dust shields to keep the dust off the letters.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: robertop] #3136925 04/10/23 10:35 AM 04/10/23 10:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 737 Middle TN. 4x4 Roundup super stock
4x4 Roundup super stock Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 737 Middle TN.	I use white letter tire paint periodically. I tried several products but the paint works best for me. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...p;_nkw=tire+paint+pen+white&_sacat=0 WANTED-- DEAD or ALIVE: '70 Duster--- VS29H0B274908-----UPDATE---ENGINE BLOCK FOUND---Still looking for the B-5 car. '79 Power Wagon W14JE9S137761 or 763

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: Neil] #3136929 04/10/23 10:44 AM 04/10/23 10:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,249 North Carolina 4 469runner pro stock
469runner pro stock 4 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,249 North Carolina	It is not dirt that causes the brown letters, it is the rubber leaching into the white and staining them. No amount of cleaning or scrubbing will change that. Unfortunately, it has been an ongoing problem for many years for BFG tires. I will never buy them again.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: 469runner] #3136947 04/10/23 11:49 AM 04/10/23 11:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,755 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,755 A collage of whims	Seems to me it's related to heat in the tires: the lettering on my slicks would be browner nearer the "tread" than it was near the rims. I'd wipe off the "Goodyear" lettering with lacquer thinner - hey, I'd advertise for them if they were free... In any case, I'm not much of a white-letter guy anyway; I think cars look visually cleaner/less "busy", so to speak, without lettered tires. But for something like a '70 F60 restored car, you're kind of stuck with the letters.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: 469runner] #3136965 04/10/23 01:08 PM 04/10/23 01:08 PM
Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,233 nowhere S Sniper master
Sniper master S Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,233 nowhere	Know why they do it https://autofella.com/how-to-clean-car-tires/ Quote The main culprit is an organic compound that goes by the name of anti-ozonant. Anti-ozonant is added to rubber and plastic materials to prevent oxidation, fading, cracking, and premature degradation. Anti-ozonant is constantly drawn to the surface to constantly protect the material from oxidation caused by repeated and constant exposure to UV damage, high temperatures, dirt, and mud. You can think of it this way: anti-ozonant is like applying sunscreen lotion on your skin when you’re out all day on the beach. Without sunscreen, you will burn to a crisp in less than 2 hours. Anti-ozonant will serve to protect and prolong the life of the tire. Without it, you will need to constantly buy new tires as UV damage and heat will significantly shorten the lifespan of the rubber compounds in your tire. But there’s a catch. When the anti-ozonant is exposed to air and moisture as it is drawn to the surface of the tire, it oxidizes and leaves a brownish residue. This is the main cause of tire blooming. Tire blooming can also be partly blamed for lubricant-type chemicals that are applied in the manufacturing process, particularly in the inside of the tire mold. Think of it as a non-stick coating that allows the tires to release smoothly from the tire mold. This non-stick coating will chemically bond with the tire in such a way that it holds a lot of anti-ozonant on the surface of the tire. You know what that means, right? As more of the anti-ozonant is drawn to the surface of the tire, then more of it will oxidize and cause those ugly brown stains on the tire sidewall.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: Sniper] #3136969 04/10/23 01:19 PM 04/10/23 01:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,366 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,366 north of coder	this reminds me of the time in the early 70's when i bought all the wide white wall tires from the local tire shop. these were tires they had for many years and couldn't sell. by then, most of the blue stuff that was supposed to protect the white wall until mounted and washed off had disappeared from moving around over the years. although somewhat dirty, the white was, well, still white. after a little cleaning, these things looked great. since this was way before the interwebs, i advertised them in hemmings, and made a good buck, selling all of them pretty quickly.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: 469runner] #3137082 04/11/23 01:11 AM 04/11/23 01:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 107 Long Island, New York 57Fury440 member
57Fury440 member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 107 Long Island, New York	The last Cooper Cobra tires I got last summer are still nice and white. I have never had a problem with the Coopers. The BF Goodrich however have turned brown. I sanded them like they recommend but they only last a while, and you have to do them again.]

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: 57Fury440] #3137198 04/11/23 03:31 PM 04/11/23 03:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,406 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,406 It's a dry heat	A good friend of mine bought 4 BFGs from a vender at Carlise summer before last. They gave him a 5 year written warranty the letters would not turn grey

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: gtx6970] #3137306 04/12/23 08:17 AM 04/12/23 08:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 234 London, England J JFChallenger440 enthusiast
JFChallenger440 enthusiast J Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 234 London, England	Anyone used this stuff ? http://www.northhantstyres.com/cleaners/bleche-wite-tyre-cleaner.php

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: JFChallenger440] #3137372 04/12/23 01:19 PM 04/12/23 01:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,500 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,500 N.E. OHIO, USA	Originally Posted by JFChallenger440 Anyone used this stuff ? http://www.northhantstyres.com/cleaners/bleche-wite-tyre-cleaner.php It's been around for decades originally under a different name. Doesn't work all that well on current raised white letters IMO,

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: A12] #3137424 04/12/23 03:49 PM 04/12/23 03:49 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,820 South Bend John Brown top fuel
John Brown top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,820 South Bend	I started using Bleechy White in the early 60's, when it had Sodium Metasilicate in it as the active ingredient. That stuff would take your breath away, but it sure got whitewalls white. Todays product is a mere shadow of what it used to be. July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: John Brown] #3137467 04/12/23 06:12 PM 04/12/23 06:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,393 Highland, MI. Sunroofcuda master
Sunroofcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,393 Highland, MI.	As far as today's white letter tires turning brown & crappy rubber compounds, I put a set of OWL Firestones (NOT the vintage tires, but current SUV tires) on my wife's Grand Cherokee, & a year later the OWL's are still nice bright white letters. So not all of today's rubber compounds are created equal! No Man With A Good Car Needs To Be Justified

Re: “White” letter tires [Re: John Brown] #3137583 04/13/23 01:02 AM 04/13/23 01:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 107 Long Island, New York 57Fury440 member
57Fury440 member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 107 Long Island, New York	Bleche White was a great product at one time but not anymore. I used it years ago but it's not the same since it was bought out. The only white letter tires that I have seen turn are the BFG.

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