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‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! #3135099
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I am going to be helping a friend of mine swap a hellcat engine and trans into a 68 dart. He has not purchased the engine or trans yet. He wants to do a Redeye and is serious about doing the swap..
what does it take to do this swap? He also plans to do an altercation front or similar. I know a swap like this isn’t for the faint of heart or inexperienced. I really don’t believe it’s anything he and I can’t tackle. I realize it’ll take modifying trans tunnel, tti headers? What’s best for engine mounts? Engine management system? I’m starting from scratch here. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: viperblue72] #3135162
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Purchase engine & factory controller from MMX.....Purchase RMS tubular front end with G3 mounts, build a stout 727 and an ATI Convertor...And install.

MMX will also have the coolant kit for the blower...

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Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: Dragula] #3135494
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If you're using the 8 speed you'll need a controller, a German company makes one, forget the name off hand. There may be others out with them by now as well

Here's a drag week elcamino with one and they have it set up pretty slick, def using every advantage they have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GKrWFvybCU (around 5 min mark)

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Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: Dart 500] #3135500
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Here's another new controller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshhfJtlVTk


If anyone is unaware with the terminology, the ZF45 is used in 6 cyl (and the Chrysler one is made by Chrysler under license). ZF70 is 5.7 and 6.4, ZF90 is hellcat and are legit ZF units.

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Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: Dart 500] #3135957
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If we decide on a standard hellcat engine, is there a preference for the donor engine? Rather it comes out of a car, truck?
Will the accessory drives all work? Aftermarket gas pedal? Will try factory manifolds fit with the alterkation front? What oil pan is necessary? I am just getting started on my research.

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You will want one from a car because the jeep and truck unit will have the all wheel drive transfer case. If you are shopping just the engine than I am sure it doesn't matter. For exhaust your best bet is to use something from TTI, I am not sure any of the factory manifolds that flow decent will work.


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Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: Bad340fish] #3136171
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I have to Mopar crate controller kit in mine. It is plug and play. The controller kits are hard to come by and are on backorder a lot. Places like MMX are jacking them up almost 2k over cost, because they know they are hard o get. They lost any future business from me. Russell Drake from Sound German Enginering gets them in time to time and seems like a great guy to deal with. If you do an 8 speed, he can hook you up to get that working. At the end of the day, its like any other swap. Hardest part I found was where and how to mount all the coolers, pump and lines for the SC.

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The TRX's have a different front drive setup, you'll want to study both to see what works for you - with a tube K I'm guessing either works. If I was doing a non oem K I would definitely do one that let me use the oem oil pan. That's ~$500 you don't need to spend if you're already bucks out on the K. Truck manifolds are just straight back logs pretty much like the 5.7 truck manifolds. I would think they fit and still make 710hp. Car ones might fit with rack and pinion.


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Re: ‘68 dart hellcat swap! Help!!! [Re: Dart 500] #3137185
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Originally Posted by Dart 500
If you're using the 8 speed you'll need a controller, a German company makes one, forget the name off hand. There may be others out with them by now as well

Here's a drag week elcamino with one and they have it set up pretty slick, def using every advantage they have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GKrWFvybCU (around 5 min mark)



"Sound German" is the company







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