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Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. #3135783 04/05/23 10:41 PM 04/05/23 10:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,334 Heaven EvilB1Dart OP master
EvilB1Dart OP master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,334 Heaven	What are you dudes paying and which brand? I have watched the prices get stupid crazy over the past few years! It’s ridiculous…… I just made the switch from VP Q16 to VP C23 for nitrous after the new BMCH 420.2 intake/Book carb updates. I bought three 5-gal cans of C23 today at $155 ea. OTD. Last time I was out with the car (Sept 2022) I paid $133 ea for 5-gal of VP Q16. Many places around here (in my area) don’t carry the fuel I need. Looks like I’m going to have to open an account and buy 55-gal drums. Going to try to finish my last 2 re-license passes this month or next around busy travel schedule. And nitrous by the pound is getting ridiculous too! "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" - A. Einstein

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3135787 04/05/23 10:48 PM 04/05/23 10:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City 6 6PKRTSE master
6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	One of the reasons why I build my cars to run on pump gas since they are street/strip cars. I will run Q16 or C23 as well on spray at the track. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3135790 04/05/23 11:11 PM 04/05/23 11:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Alcohol is up to 220.00 a drum (54 gallons). I just ordered two. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: pittsburghracer] #3135803 04/06/23 12:01 AM 04/06/23 12:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,479 On the run… BloFish I Live Here
BloFish I Live Here Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,479 On the run…	Sunoco 110 race fuel 56.00 for a 5 gallon can It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose… as long as you look good doing it! ‘65 A100 ‘69 ‘Cuda ‘73 Vega GT ‘06 Mega Cab ‘14 Mercedes SLK

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3135817 04/06/23 03:12 AM 04/06/23 03:12 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,176 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,176 Bend,OR USA	I like and ran pump E85 with all my motors in the S/P car I sold last year. I'm planning on using it with that fuel on my new 572 C.I. B1 motor with 14.25 to 1 comp. ratio with a sheet metal tunnel ram with two Mark Sullens E85 prep Domnators carbs and two kits of NOS on that motor I'm hoping that works well Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: Cab_Burge] #3135822 04/06/23 05:27 AM 04/06/23 05:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 674 st.louis,mo. dart games mopar
dart games mopar Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 674 st.louis,mo.	i use e85

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: dart games] #3135826 04/06/23 06:08 AM 04/06/23 06:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,070 Mo. racerx master
racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,070 Mo.	Originally Posted by dart games i use e85 x2here....i usually buy it by the drum(e-98) and mix it, haven't purchase a drum in a couple years but i imagine the price has went up.

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: dart games] #3135827 04/06/23 06:09 AM 04/06/23 06:09 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	I switched back to pump gas 93 on my new build....For the difference in ET, it made no sense. I also do not run a power adder yet. But when I do, its going to be E85 for me. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: Dragula] #3135830 04/06/23 06:37 AM 04/06/23 06:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,027 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,027 Tulsa OK	That is why I am a knuckle dragging pump gas guy lol. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3135831 04/06/23 06:41 AM 04/06/23 06:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,917 A shed in England Tig master
Tig master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,917 A shed in England	Just a quick question or 2, Do you use a separate fuel cell and system for N20 ? How much fuel does the N20 kit(s) use per 100hp shot ? Just for info, here in the UK at today's exchange rate, VP C12 is roughly $182 for a 19 litre drum. (5 US Gallons) or $36 a gallon. VP C23 works out at around $235 for a 5 US gallon drum. I use Avgas and super unleaded mixed 50 / 50, works out around $9.00 per us gallon. Thanks. '74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: Tig] #3135840 04/06/23 07:43 AM 04/06/23 07:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,363 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,363 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Wes...the 5 gallon cans of C23 are $155 here also. I use Renegade Pro 120N fuel. Last time I bought any was last fall and it was $17 per gallon if I recall correctly. Tig...I don't run a separate fuel system for the nitrous. Too much clutter and a PITA in my opinion. I just drain the tank and refill when I get ready to spray it. If you do run a separate system dedicated to the nitrous, a 1 gallon tank is PLENTY. It won't even come close to using half that unless you're spraying multiple BIG kits. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3135847 04/06/23 08:14 AM 04/06/23 08:14 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,560 S.E. Michigan cl440 master
cl440 master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,560 S.E. Michigan	Been running pump E85 for a few years now. Its gone up as well. I was paying $1.39 a gallon for 87% a few years ago. The last batch I bought was still 87% but cost me $2.59 a gallon. Still a good deal compared to other race fuels.

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: cl440] #3135857 04/06/23 09:08 AM 04/06/23 09:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,979 new jersey usa 1 11secdart master
11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,979 new jersey usa	Yep... I converted my motors to pump gas a few years ago but still add splash of 110 to be safe so a 5 gallon can lasts me a long time... on that note has anybody used the " new " Sunoco 94 octane unleaded ? 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: 11secdart] #3135864 04/06/23 09:40 AM 04/06/23 09:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City 6 6PKRTSE master
6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	Definitely has gone up. Just check my cost for C23 and it is now $107.26 per pail and Q16 is now $92.21 per pail. E85 IS $46.67 per pail. I may have to switch over to E85 also if I run more then pump gas often. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3135870 04/06/23 10:18 AM 04/06/23 10:18 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	I’m more worried about traction compound being more available this year. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: pittsburghracer] #3135909 04/06/23 11:36 AM 04/06/23 11:36 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,176 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,176 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted by pittsburghracer I’m more worried about traction compound being more available this year. Which brand and type traction compounds are good? My new car (1000+ HP) may need some Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: Cab_Burge] #3135912 04/06/23 11:44 AM 04/06/23 11:44 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge Originally Posted by pittsburghracer I’m more worried about traction compound being more available this year. Which brand and type traction compounds are good? My new car (1000+ HP) may need some As supplied by tracks. We aren’t allowed to supply our own like the street outlaws. Lol 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3135926 04/06/23 12:17 PM 04/06/23 12:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC	Originally Posted by EvilB1Dart What are you dudes paying and which brand? I have watched the prices get stupid crazy over the past few years! It’s ridiculous…… I just made the switch from VP Q16 to VP C23 for nitrous after the new BMCH 420.2 intake/Book carb updates. I bought three 5-gal cans of C23 today at $155 ea. OTD. Last time I was out with the car (Sept 2022) I paid $133 ea for 5-gal of VP Q16. Many places around here (in my area) don’t carry the fuel I need. Looks like I’m going to have to open an account and buy 55-gal drums. Going to try to finish my last 2 re-license passes this month or next around busy travel schedule. And nitrous by the pound is getting ridiculous too! Yes, fuel is expensive. That is a crazy price for C23 ($31/gal). But those 5 gallon cans are expensive. You should be able to save money buying a drum. I bought 30 gals of methanol (alky) and paid $4.10/gal. Sep 2021 I paid $3.00/gal. 1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: 440Jim] #3135955 04/06/23 02:07 PM 04/06/23 02:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,405 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,405 north of coder	how does non-E pump 90 [pure gasoline with no ethanol content] compare to regular pump 93 ?

Re: Good LAWD!!!!!!! The price of race fuel…………. [Re: moparx] #3135964 04/06/23 03:03 PM 04/06/23 03:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,720 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,720 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	Originally Posted by moparx how does non-E pump 90 [pure gasoline with no ethanol content] compare to regular pump 93 ? Price wise or performance wise? Since I moved here I have been using no E pump 93 in the Mopar and no E pump 87 in all the small engine stuff and cheapest E10 87 in the drivers. Closest E85 station looks to be about 30 miles away. If I built a high compression engine I would probably go e85 before I would pay those crazy race gas prices even though pretty much everything $$$ in the fuel system would need to be changed to accommodate e85. Last edited by GomangoCuda; 04/06/23 03:16 PM. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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