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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Jeremiah] #3125372
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Ok, minor change of plans. I was on the waitlist for Sick Summer and was accepted this morning, so barring any catastrophes I’m doing my first drag and drive this June!

The car won’t be legal past 11.50 so I’m going to leave the motor alone, and jet it down a little to slow it down to 11.60’s.

In the meantime I need to get cracking on the rearend purchase so the rest of the car is bulletproof.


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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Ok, minor change of plans. I was on the waitlist for Sick Summer and was accepted this morning, so barring any catastrophes I’m doing my first drag and drive this June!

The car won’t be legal past 11.50 so I’m going to leave the motor alone, and jet it down a little to slow it down to 11.60’s.

In the meantime I need to get cracking on the rearend purchase so the rest of the car is bulletproof.


That's cool, glad you got in.

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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Ok, minor change of plans. I was on the waitlist for Sick Summer and was accepted this morning, so barring any catastrophes I’m doing my first drag and drive this June!

The car won’t be legal past 11.50 so I’m going to leave the motor alone, and jet it down a little to slow it down to 11.60’s.

In the meantime I need to get cracking on the rearend purchase so the rest of the car is bulletproof.


Awesome! I've always wanted to do a drag and drive but just can't take off that long.


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Blusmbl] #3126928
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Cool beans!


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: ZIPPY] #3127038
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Cool to hear. Nice to see some other Mopars in the drag and drives. However, we all have to work more to be able to afford these damn cars.....


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3127077
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Thanks, I'm super excited! I wasn't expecting to have a deadline for this season so things have ramped up substantially.

Sold my Road King about a week ago, and almost all of that $$$ went to parts for the Fury. Ordered the Strange S60 from Dr. Diff over the weekend. Ordered a headers-back TTI exhaust system, Plymouth exhaust tips, and Hooker Aerochamber mufflers, so it'll have a full 3" system with tailpipes that should help quiet it down some for the drives. Also bought a spare starter, alternator, spare pushrods, 2 spare rocker arms for what's currently on the engine, and then almost everything to do the cylinder head swap (head gaskets, full Harland Sharp rockers for E heads/Trick Flows, TF intake that I'll have to blend some for the MW 270's, valley plate, head bolts, Comp 928 springs to match the cam, etc).

It is looking grim for the heads to show up in time for the event, but that shouldn't be a problem, I'll just install those over the winter when I'm done with it for the season.

Also bought billet Motion Raceworks cupholders, a small bluetooth Kenwood amp, and dash and 6x9 speakers. It's going the wrong way with weight with the full exhaust and stereo, but if I have to spend 6 hours a day in it driving I had to prioritize tunes!

The rearend should hopefully get here by the 1st week of May, will toss that in immediately with the Wilwoods, bend up some brake lines, then will need to get the driveshaft cut down/rebalanced. Have a new speedo gear on the way from Brewers too.

Last stretch goal will be to patch the large cuts in the outer wheelhouses that were previously made for tire clearance. I might try that myself or see if I can find a local fabricator that could do it in a week or two. It doesn't have to be pretty, I just don't want a monsoon getting into the trunk. lol


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Blusmbl] #3128357
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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Also bought billet Motion Raceworks cupholders, a small bluetooth Kenwood amp, and dash and 6x9 speakers. It's going the wrong way with weight with the full exhaust and stereo, but if I have to spend 6 hours a day in it driving I had to prioritize tunes!


What speakers did you buy? I recently put a sound system back in my car after years of no music and its so much better. Alpine S series sound really good for a cheaper/entry level speaker, my 6x9s really crank out the lows well just off of an old Kenwood receiver. I mounted 2 4s to a custom plate in the dash.


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: GTX MATT] #3129125
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Nothing fancy, just some 3 way JBL club 6x9's. For the front I saw the plates that adapt two 4" speakers to the 4x10 dash hole and I totally would've gone that route, except the Fury's main dash trim piece comes very close to the original 4x10 speaker on the left side, and if there was a larger magnet I'd have to cut the dash bezel. The twin 4's have to sound so much better than the 4x10!

I went with this amp Kenwood and figured I can make a little bracket for the controller that will hide behind the billet cupholders I purchased, lol

If I can hear any tunes over the exhaust I'll be happy enough with it.

Sounds like my TTI order shipped so I can get started on the exhaust install this week. Diff is likely another 7 weeks out though.


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Blusmbl] #3131317
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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Ok, minor change of plans. I was on the waitlist for Sick Summer and was accepted this morning, so barring any catastrophes I’m doing my first drag and drive this June!

The car won’t be legal past 11.50 so I’m going to leave the motor alone, and jet it down a little to slow it down to 11.60’s.

In the meantime I need to get cracking on the rearend purchase so the rest of the car is bulletproof.


Right-on! Cool that you got in. Keep grinding!!!


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3131334
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Thank you!! I'll be in a holding pattern soon until the rearend shows up, but that should only be a weekend's worth of work or so, plus the time to get the driveshaft cut down.

So far I've got the *incredibly important* billet cupholders and stereo installed. The TTI exhaust showed up yesterday, should be able to install that this weekend. My Trick Flow 270's also surprisingly showed up last week but I'm still waiting on the valley plate and intake, I won't install those until after Sick Summer.


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Blusmbl] #3131350
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Moving right along!


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Man, I need cup holders!


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10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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On an aluminum bracket that mounted the stereo volume control and slides with the seat!

I'm guessing between the extra weight of the exhaust, the dana, and the swap from 4.30's to 4.10's, it's going to slow down at least a tenth on motor. Like Tony said, nothing the 7/16 wrench can't fix. lol

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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: Blusmbl] #3132659
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If i were you...i'd consider throwing on the 270's and run the car that way this year!

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It's a definite possibility!! I'm close to having all of the parts to do the head swap, just waiting on the regular Trick Flow intake, and I'd need to order pushrods. If nothing else shows up this month I may do the head swap out of boredom until Strange finishes the S60!

I test fit the TTI exhaust today and I'm unfortunately on the fence about it. Their systems for all of the other Mopars put the tailpipes in the right spot, these end up lower than a normal setup and the tips look pretty bad when installed because of the 3" gap to the bumper. The passenger side tailpipe was also grounding out on the shock crossmember, I could fix it with a couple solid whacks from a hammer though. Tailpipes seem like the right choice for a drag and drive car, but I may punt on this for now and just go with plan B of earplugs. laugh2

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Nice progress man!

Thing is going to be humming with 4.10s. Thought of cruising on a 30" tire and racing on a 28"?


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That's a tough situation with the tailpipes. Could a section be cut out and welded up to tuck them in better?


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Originally Posted by ZIPPY


That's a tough situation with the tailpipes. Could a section be cut out and welded up to tuck them in better?


Block of wood, and a floor jack.


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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: OUTLAWD] #3134798
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWD
Nice progress man!

Thing is going to be humming with 4.10s. Thought of cruising on a 30" tire and racing on a 28"?

A Gearvendors od would be great for this d&d type of build.



Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's? [Re: John Burdine] #3134822
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Thanks guys! I have 295/65/15 ET Street SS's on it now, they're a little over 30". With my current 4.30's it's at about 3500 rpm at 70, and the 4.10's should bring it down to a nice relaxing 3300! A gear vendors would reduce that further to ~2750 at 70, which is right where the engine/cam has cleaned up enough and it's happy. A gear vendors is a stretch goal for sure but for now I'll just drive it slow.

I eventually want a set of 28's to do some of the daily driver, back of the track races at Milan, but until I swap the rearend, the tall tires are too difficult to get on and off to swap them frequently. The wheel lips are trimmed and the tires still have to be deflated and ratchet strapped to get out from under the car. Between the narrower rearend and discs that should be much easier soon though.

The tailpipes are a bummer for sure. There is at least an inch that could be squished out of the hanger but then they'll hit the shock crossmember even harder. Could maybe pie cut it past the hanger to get them to angle up closer to the bumper? I'm also worried now that the midpipe puts the mufflers too close to the driveshaft as it wasn't designed for a larger than stock driveshaft.

This is from another TTI c body install video, not my car but it's identical under there.

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