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The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 12:02 PM
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Holland MI Ottawa
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Several 8.75s NEAR me for sale but they are the tapered axle style. Later common style are for sale too but on the other side of the state. (Both are expensive!) I searched here on Moparts and was not fully brought up to speed. So back in the day it took an aftermarket conversion axle to make the tapered style into the 1965 on up common style? No factory axle shafts are a direct swap? I'm looking for a rear for my 95 Dakota and that early B body unit is a great length- but not at the cost of weird pressed on- unavailable hubs and such. BTW- these tapered axle style rears for sale do not have the hubs otherwise I would do that conversion to run later drums.
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 01:19 PM
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Bend,OR USA
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You can use the 1965 backing plates, drums and axles in your, the earlier housings, you may need to trim a small amount of the splines off the later axles depending on which year early housing and which body stye it came out of. The 1963 B body axles and housings are shorter than the 1965 B body housings,the 1964 B body housings are longer than the 1963 B body are I haven't tried to use any of the early C body 8 3/4 rear ends in any of my cars so no help on that  All the early 3rd members had a device in the center of the carrier that the axles would butt up to and you needed to use shims between the brake backing plates and the rear end housing to set the end play   If you use the later, better, green axle bearings you don't need to worry about that unless you end up with no end play on the axles, if that is the case then trim a little off the axles ends that go into the spider gears, drive gears inside the carriers IHTHs 
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 01:50 PM
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Holland MI Ottawa
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You can use the 1965 backing plates, drums and axles in your, the earlier housings, you may need to trim a small amount of the splines off the later axles depending on which year early housing and which body stye it came out of. The 1963 B body axles and housings are shorter than the 1965 B body housings,the 1964 B body housings are longer than the 1963 B body are I haven't tried to use any of the early C body 8 3/4 rear ends in any of my cars so no help on that All the early 3rd members had a device in the center of the carrier that the axles would butt up to and you needed to use shims between the brake backing plates and the rear end housing to set the end play If you use the later, better, green axle bearings you don't need to worry about that unless you end up with no end play on the axles, if that is the case then trim a little off the axles ends that go into the spider gears, drive gears inside the carriers IHTHs Cab I read a post from you dated from 2009 that was helpful. I don't need a rear end immediately but I am disheartened at how fast they sell on Facebook Marketplace- even the EXPENSIVE units. I may repack my tailer wheel bearings and buy a spare tire for it and trek a long ways for a complete unit out of a 69 road runner on the east side of MI.
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 05:54 PM
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You can use the 1965 backing plates, drums and axles in your, the earlier housings, you may need to trim a small amount of the splines off the later axles depending on which year early housing and which body stye it came out of. The 1963 B body axles and housings are shorter than the 1965 B body housings,the 1964 B body housings are longer than the 1963 B body are I haven't tried to use any of the early C body 8 3/4 rear ends in any of my cars so no help on that All the early 3rd members had a device in the center of the carrier that the axles would butt up to and you needed to use shims between the brake backing plates and the rear end housing to set the end play If you use the later, better, green axle bearings you don't need to worry about that unless you end up with no end play on the axles, if that is the case then trim a little off the axles ends that go into the spider gears, drive gears inside the carriers IHTHs Cab I read a post from you dated from 2009 that was helpful. I don't need a rear end immediately but I am disheartened at how fast they sell on Facebook Marketplace- even the EXPENSIVE units. I may repack my tailer wheel bearings and buy a spare tire for it and trek a long ways for a complete unit out of a 69 road runner on the east side of MI. How much are those 62-65 units selling for ?
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 07:51 PM
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CMcAllister
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For what Moser is selling their stuff for vs. big bucks for an old used abused housing...
things that make you go hmmmm
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/15/23 10:58 PM
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It’s probably too wide for you but I’ll have a drum to drum A100/C/E body rearend with moser axles and a 4.30 489 case for sale as soon as my Strange S60 arrives, and I could deliver it. The perch width is 46” on it compared to 44” for the B’s.
'18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/16/23 10:08 AM
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It’s probably too wide for you but I’ll have a drum to drum A100/C/E body rearend with moser axles and a 4.30 489 case for sale as soon as my Strange S60 arrives, and I could deliver it. The perch width is 46” on it compared to 44” for the B’s. Ideally a flange to flange measurement of 54-57" would be ideal. Avails me to actual rear/back spacing Weld has on their Draglite wheels. I'm really hoping something much close to Holland MI pops up. I have a utility trailer. Its just I really don't feel like a trek across the state with it. Shoot me a PM here though with your price. And thanks.
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/16/23 10:13 AM
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What I am seeing on Marketplace is NON sure grip units- Heavily rusted -without drums and brake components for $300-$800. "Sure grip" units heavily rusted-complete and non complete for $900-$1500. Same for Ford 9." The more reasonably priced units are the furthest distance wise from me. But I don't need one ASAP. Its just my OCD drives me nuts!
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/16/23 10:43 PM
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You can use the 1965 backing plates, drums and axles in your, the earlier housings, you may need to trim a small amount of the splines off the later axles depending on which year early housing and which body stye it came out of. The 1963 B body axles and housings are shorter than the 1965 B body housings,the 1964 B body housings are longer than the 1963 B body are I haven't tried to use any of the early C body 8 3/4 rear ends in any of my cars so no help on that All the early 3rd members had a device in the center of the carrier that the axles would butt up to and you needed to use shims between the brake backing plates and the rear end housing to set the end play If you use the later, better, green axle bearings you don't need to worry about that unless you end up with no end play on the axles, if that is the case then trim a little off the axles ends that go into the spider gears, drive gears inside the carriers IHTHs Cab I read a post from you dated from 2009 that was helpful. I don't need a rear end immediately but I am disheartened at how fast they sell on Facebook Marketplace- even the EXPENSIVE units. I may repack my tailer wheel bearings and buy a spare tire for it and trek a long ways for a complete unit out of a 69 road runner on the east side of MI. I scrapped a max wedge housing when I left calif in 94, couldn't find a taker. Also scrapped an e body 8-3/4 housing with axles and backing plates about 15 years ago. Again, no takers  Should've held onto both. Currently can't find a home for a 64 BB 727 console shift with driveshaft or a BB 727 74 vintage. But as soon as i scrap them they'll both be worth $$$ 
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/17/23 12:04 PM
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Its obvious on marketplace that many have had a moment of: "Oh sh#!- that rear end that's been in the field for 30 years is now worth a fortune." I say this because many pics are of a heavily rusted/crusted assemblies in a field/yard with high weeds growing around it ---and a hefty price. Not just mopar units either.
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/17/23 12:33 PM
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Rio Linda, CA
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A wrecking yard near me used to have a huge pile of rear ends waiting for the price of scrap to peak. Lots of flange axle 8 3/4's and truck Dana 60's. $50 for anything in the pile.
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
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Re: The pre 1964 8.75 rear with tapered axle shafts
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03/17/23 02:54 PM
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I am sure it has been covered before but what about using a "mini spool" to change over an open end unit? I know there will be responses saying that a spool is terrible for a street car but I would like to hear from those that have them and what their experiences are. I have an open end in by barracuda and would like to put in a sure grip but prices are ridiculous at the moment. A mini spool is a lot less but what would I be opening myself up to by going that route? Not for a daily driven car but more of a fair weather cruiser.
Last edited by roadrunninMark; 03/17/23 02:55 PM.
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Yup , and 
Cass knows His 8.75s ! Call Him ! 
