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These speedy games are messing up beer sales at stadiums!


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I haven't seen any games except Tigers so haven't seen any interleague. I didn't mind the shift in years past, but it got to be to frequent for me. Anyway don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm just glad to see the games played quicker and not all the standing around while these premadonnas think everyone has to wait on them. Another bonus to games moving faster is some of these long winded broadcasters can't ramble on and on! Remember Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox? Omg that guy was so annoying with his boring stories and he'd always tell them when the opposition was hitting (Tigers).

Tigers are in trouble. Casey Mize out, now Manning out (hopefully not too long), and not scoring runs. While I'm not for always blaming managers, I think it might be time for A.J. Hinch to go. Where's Alan Trammell?


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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
I haven't seen any games except Tigers so haven't seen any interleague. I didn't mind the shift in years past, but it got to be to frequent for me. Anyway don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm just glad to see the games played quicker and not all the standing around while these premadonnas think everyone has to wait on them. Another bonus to games moving faster is some of these long winded broadcasters can't ramble on and on! Remember Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox? Omg that guy was so annoying with his boring stories and he'd always tell them when the opposition was hitting (Tigers).

Tigers are in trouble. Casey Mize out, now Manning out (hopefully not too long), and not scoring runs. While I'm not for always blaming managers, I think it might be time for A.J. Hinch to go. Where's Alan Trammell?



I was never excited about hinch especially when he refused to put garret cole in the last game of the world series against the nationals because analytics, that move likely cost him another ring then his involvement with the cheating crap. Trammel is one of my all time favorite players but I am afraid he is too old school and would look like tony larusa did last couple years. As for this whole season we were already doomed when we traded away the one thing we had sorted out (bullpen) for a sack of used jock straps. I hope eqduardo and javier walk next year and harris finds some decent replacements, I am still bitter they passed on Marcelo Mayer in the draft, we needed a SS and he was the best guy on the board.


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I haven't seen any games except Tigers so haven't seen any interleague. I didn't mind the shift in years past, but it got to be to frequent for me. Anyway don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm just glad to see the games played quicker and not all the standing around while these premadonnas think everyone has to wait on them. Another bonus to games moving faster is some of these long winded broadcasters can't ramble on and on! Remember Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox? Omg that guy was so annoying with his boring stories and he'd always tell them when the opposition was hitting (Tigers).

Tigers are in trouble. Casey Mize out, now Manning out (hopefully not too long), and not scoring runs. While I'm not for always blaming managers, I think it might be time for A.J. Hinch to go. Where's Alan Trammell?



I was never excited about hinch especially when he refused to put garret cole in the last game of the world series against the nationals because analytics, that move likely cost him another ring then his involvement with the cheating crap. Trammel is one of my all time favorite players but I am afraid he is too old school and would look like tony larusa did last couple years. As for this whole season we were already doomed when we traded away the one thing we had sorted out (bullpen) for a sack of used jock straps. I hope eqduardo and javier walk next year and harris finds some decent replacements, I am still bitter they passed on Marcelo Mayer in the draft, we needed a SS and he was the best guy on the board.
I hated to see the bullpen go too. I agree a SS is needed but I guess they figure Baez has several years left and is a star despite disappointment so far. I'm not a fan of his personality and would love to see a farm hand come up soon and take his spot so he could be traded in his final year if not sooner. Trammell is old school but I think has the ability to really bring a team together and teach the fundamentals. I really admired him for what a quality guy he always was. Never had an agent; just came in and signed his new contract after a ten minute discussion. A real class act along with such a solid player for so many years that made me so happy to be a Tigers fan.

Killing the Tigers right now is not having at least one big bat in the lineup.


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Lost most interest in the game after one of the player strikes when they were crying for more money & had a shortened season. Of course the greed by the owners is a huge turn off as well. I'd watch it on TV when I felt like it, but I never paid for a sports channel to get games on TV. When the YES network had a contract dispute with my satellite company & I lost the channel entirely, I stopped watching. I have only been to four games in the last 30 years & three of them were free when I was given a ticket. The one I paid for was actually the last year that the old Yankee Stadium was still being used & the new one was being built next to it. I took my wife & son so they could at least see the place before it was gone.

When rules or ways the game is played change it's always hard to get used to it. I didn't think the DH was a good idea but got used to it. I used to like seeing pitchers get 20+ wins regularly but now it's rare that they get 20 starts. I'd get used to the new rules even if I don't like them. You can adapt, it's part of life. The things I can't adapt to are shelling out $250 a month for TV, $20 hot dogs, $30 beers, $12 candy bars, & all after paying the equivalent of the GDP of a small country for tickets to crappy seats with some drunken loudmouth standing in front of me ready to jump on to the field to have a fist fight with the umpire.

I still love baseball, always did. I even went & tired out for a minor league team in 1995 & met the manager who played for the the Detroit Tigers when I was a kid, Ron LeFlore. cool (I didn't make the team by the way...LOL)

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Originally Posted by Old_Moparz
Lost most interest in the game after one of the player strikes when they were crying for more money & had a shortened season. Of course the greed by the owners is a huge turn off as well. I'd watch it on TV when I felt like it, but I never paid for a sports channel to get games on TV. When the YES network had a contract dispute with my satellite company & I lost the channel entirely, I stopped watching. I have only been to four games in the last 30 years & three of them were free when I was given a ticket. The one I paid for was actually the last year that the old Yankee Stadium was still being used & the new one was being built next to it. I took my wife & son so they could at least see the place before it was gone.

When rules or ways the game is played change it's always hard to get used to it. I didn't think the DH was a good idea but got used to it. I used to like seeing pitchers get 20+ wins regularly but now it's rare that they get 20 starts. I'd get used to the new rules even if I don't like them. You can adapt, it's part of life. The things I can't adapt to are shelling out $250 a month for TV, $20 hot dogs, $30 beers, $12 candy bars, & all after paying the equivalent of the GDP of a small country for tickets to crappy seats with some drunken loudmouth standing in front of me ready to jump on to the field to have a fist fight with the umpire.

I still love baseball, always did. I even went & tired out for a minor league team in 1995 & met the manager who played for the the Detroit Tigers when I was a kid, Ron LeFlore. cool (I didn't make the team by the way...LOL)
Ron LeFlore! That's a great story from the past! I understand everything you wrote about! It was great when pitchers would pitch complete games and pitch well over 200 innings a season. Real workhorses and bulldogs. Now so many have a pre-planned bull pen schedule for the 7th, 8th and 9th. Remember Jack Morris? Quite the work horse. Although not in the same category, I actually liked Dan Petry better.

Greed has certainly effected the game negatively. Ads are everywhere during the game and it's annoying. They are even showing in-game commercials! I'm hanging on because the game I have loved all my life is the last professional sport I watch. I haven't gone to a Spring Training game in over a decade, and I'm in Florida and several train only an hour away. Joker Marchant stadium is only about two hours away.

P.S. As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Dave Windfield had the strongest arm in Right Field I ever saw. Geez, I remember someone on the Tigers hitting a ball to deep right and it hit the base of the wall and died there. Winfield picked it up and threw a cannon from the wall to Home on the fly and nailed the runner that had been on First. I still remember it all these years later and I was just a little kid. That's when both were in the AL East and rivals of course.


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Stopped watching about all, when new parks were built with shorter outfield distances.
All for the sake of giving the viewers more opportunities to witness more HOMERUNS !!!
Just compare many old-to-new stadiums.

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Stopped watching about all, when new parks were built with shorter outfield distances.
All for the sake of giving the viewers more opportunities to witness more HOMERUNS !!!
Just compare many old-to-new stadiums.
Yes I hate that crap too. Although I was so happy when they started doing away with domes and going back to open air old style stadiums! I hate the way teams seem to wear ten different uniforms a season. What's that about? Keeping the ADD fans watching? I don't mind a vintage uniform day but this other flashy crap is annoying and wasteful.


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HotRodDave I couldn't send you a private message, but suddenly the Tigers have won five in a row including taking a double header yesterday!!


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Not on a winning streak now. None of the teams they beat this year have a record better than .500 so I am not too excited yet.


When I was a kid I used to ride my bicycle across lakeland to go to the games and even when I couldn't get in I would go just to try to get autos after the game and I got to meet Cecil Fielder my all time favorite, Sweet lou, Tramell parish, Morris, Tony, Gibson, Sparky and tons of others and still have all their autos, unfortunately my Cecil auto is so faded I almost can't see it at all. I even got to meet Al Kaline at a golf course my dad worked at and got his auto on a ball, sold it and have regretted it for approximately 30 years now.


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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
Not on a winning streak now. None of the teams they beat this year have a record better than .500 so I am not too excited yet.


When I was a kid I used to ride my bicycle across lakeland to go to the games and even when I couldn't get in I would go just to try to get autos after the game and I got to meet Cecil Fielder my all time favorite, Sweet lou, Tramell parish, Morris, Tony, Gibson, Sparky and tons of others and still have all their autos, unfortunately my Cecil auto is so faded I almost can't see it at all. I even got to meet Al Kaline at a golf course my dad worked at and got his auto on a ball, sold it and have regretted it for approximately 30 years now.
Those were the guys from my childhood that will always be "The Tigers" in my mind. I have the starting lineup in my head forever. Whitaker, Trammell, Gibson, Parrish; then it could go a few ways but usually DH Darrell Evans or Marty Castillo then Chet Lemon, Larry Herndon, and Tom Brookens. Later we'd see Dave Bergman at first for defense (remember odd batting stance, real closed stance). Those were the days!

My dad would drive me to Dodgertown in Vero Beach because that was the closest spring training site and a great one to see a game. You could get up close to the players and I got Sparky's autograph along with Lou and Alan. Such good times.


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Wow lots of good memories and all of those days when you had this feeling of "I could watch those guys for hours, it was great times" does that mean we're all getting less time to spend with our heroes now that they put a timer on them and us. So they did this for TV and not for the fans. Just stirring the pot as I never, ever thought a baseball game took too long, if it did I just got up and left.........which I never did. Just watch when a world series titled has a bad time clock umpire call that costs a team a game or a title. Tough enough with the balls and strikes and base tags, catch or not a catch and all of the other calls, lets add in a subjective time call in there for more catfight Not seeing the benefit for the sake of big money media aka TV. Just my twocents

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But remember A12, back during these great times the games averaged much less time then they were in 2022. They progressively became longer and longer and went from 2.5 hours to over 3 hours and it was the number one complaint from fans. The premadonnas at the plate who expected everyone to wait while they stepped out of the box after every single pitch to play with their batting gloves, sweat bands, gold chains, etc. Same for the pitchers that wanted to walk around the mound after every pitch while the world waits for THEM. So really, the timer is returning the game to what it was when we all remember it at it's best.


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Originally Posted by larrymopar360

Ron LeFlore! That's a great story from the past! I understand everything you wrote about! It was great when pitchers would pitch complete games and pitch well over 200 innings a season. Real workhorses and bulldogs. Now so many have a pre-planned bull pen schedule for the 7th, 8th and 9th. Remember Jack Morris? Quite the work horse. Although not in the same category, I actually liked Dan Petry better.

Greed has certainly effected the game negatively. Ads are everywhere during the game and it's annoying. They are even showing in-game commercials! I'm hanging on because the game I have loved all my life is the last professional sport I watch. I haven't gone to a Spring Training game in over a decade, and I'm in Florida and several train only an hour away. Joker Marchant stadium is only about two hours away.

P.S. As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Dave Windfield had the strongest arm in Right Field I ever saw. Geez, I remember someone on the Tigers hitting a ball to deep right and it hit the base of the wall and died there. Winfield picked it up and threw a cannon from the wall to Home on the fly and nailed the runner that had been on First. I still remember it all these years later and I was just a little kid. That's when both were in the AL East and rivals of course.


I also recall a pitcher getting 30 wins in a season. eek (Although I had to look it up, it was Denny McLain in 1968.) Seems like today winning 10 games is the milestone. I can accept that because of all the injuries & shortened careers some had.

Minor League games are fun, the atmosphere at the park is great & everything is still affordable.

Dave Winfield was fun to watch. up I saw Paul O'Neill do something similar a few times, another great arm.

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I like the pitch clock. It's gonna do wonders for the game of baseball.

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Ron LeFlore! That's a great story from the past! I understand everything you wrote about! It was great when pitchers would pitch complete games and pitch well over 200 innings a season. Real workhorses and bulldogs. Now so many have a pre-planned bull pen schedule for the 7th, 8th and 9th. Remember Jack Morris? Quite the work horse. Although not in the same category, I actually liked Dan Petry better.

Greed has certainly effected the game negatively. Ads are everywhere during the game and it's annoying. They are even showing in-game commercials! I'm hanging on because the game I have loved all my life is the last professional sport I watch. I haven't gone to a Spring Training game in over a decade, and I'm in Florida and several train only an hour away. Joker Marchant stadium is only about two hours away.

P.S. As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Dave Windfield had the strongest arm in Right Field I ever saw. Geez, I remember someone on the Tigers hitting a ball to deep right and it hit the base of the wall and died there. Winfield picked it up and threw a cannon from the wall to Home on the fly and nailed the runner that had been on First. I still remember it all these years later and I was just a little kid. That's when both were in the AL East and rivals of course.


I also recall a pitcher getting 30 wins in a season. eek (Although I had to look it up, it was Denny McLain in 1968.) Seems like today winning 10 games is the milestone. I can accept that because of all the injuries & shortened careers some had.

Minor League games are fun, the atmosphere at the park is great & everything is still affordable.

Dave Winfield was fun to watch. up I saw Paul O'Neill do something similar a few times, another great arm.



They still have all the injuries and shortened careers, they just train harder instead of playing harder. The lighter work load has done nothing for longevity.


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Ron LeFlore! That's a great story from the past! I understand everything you wrote about! It was great when pitchers would pitch complete games and pitch well over 200 innings a season. Real workhorses and bulldogs. Now so many have a pre-planned bull pen schedule for the 7th, 8th and 9th. Remember Jack Morris? Quite the work horse. Although not in the same category, I actually liked Dan Petry better.

Greed has certainly effected the game negatively. Ads are everywhere during the game and it's annoying. They are even showing in-game commercials! I'm hanging on because the game I have loved all my life is the last professional sport I watch. I haven't gone to a Spring Training game in over a decade, and I'm in Florida and several train only an hour away. Joker Marchant stadium is only about two hours away.

P.S. As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Dave Windfield had the strongest arm in Right Field I ever saw. Geez, I remember someone on the Tigers hitting a ball to deep right and it hit the base of the wall and died there. Winfield picked it up and threw a cannon from the wall to Home on the fly and nailed the runner that had been on First. I still remember it all these years later and I was just a little kid. That's when both were in the AL East and rivals of course.


I also recall a pitcher getting 30 wins in a season. eek (Although I had to look it up, it was Denny McLain in 1968.) Seems like today winning 10 games is the milestone. I can accept that because of all the injuries & shortened careers some had.

Minor League games are fun, the atmosphere at the park is great & everything is still affordable.

Dave Winfield was fun to watch. up I saw Paul O'Neill do something similar a few times, another great arm.



They still have all the injuries and shortened careers, they just train harder instead of playing harder. The lighter work load has done nothing for longevity.
Just today Dan Plesac on "MLB Now" was talking about pitchers learning starting in college that 5-6 innings is a quality start and that it's not smart and needs to change.


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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
I haven't seen any games except Tigers so haven't seen any interleague. I didn't mind the shift in years past, but it got to be to frequent for me. Anyway don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm just glad to see the games played quicker and not all the standing around while these premadonnas think everyone has to wait on them. Another bonus to games moving faster is some of these long winded broadcasters can't ramble on and on! Remember Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox? Omg that guy was so annoying with his boring stories and he'd always tell them when the opposition was hitting (Tigers).

Tigers are in trouble. Casey Mize out, now Manning out (hopefully not too long), and not scoring runs. While I'm not for always blaming managers, I think it might be time for A.J. Hinch to go. Where's Alan Trammell?



Looking like the tigers aren't gonna get crap for their two best pitchers on the trade market either, gonna have to hurry up and take a last minute deal, I was hoping Harris would be an improvement over Avila but seems to be more of the same, I hope I can eat my words in a couple hours...


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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
I haven't seen any games except Tigers so haven't seen any interleague. I didn't mind the shift in years past, but it got to be to frequent for me. Anyway don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm just glad to see the games played quicker and not all the standing around while these premadonnas think everyone has to wait on them. Another bonus to games moving faster is some of these long winded broadcasters can't ramble on and on! Remember Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox? Omg that guy was so annoying with his boring stories and he'd always tell them when the opposition was hitting (Tigers).

Tigers are in trouble. Casey Mize out, now Manning out (hopefully not too long), and not scoring runs. While I'm not for always blaming managers, I think it might be time for A.J. Hinch to go. Where's Alan Trammell?



Looking like the tigers aren't gonna get crap for their two best pitchers on the trade market either, gonna have to hurry up and take a last minute deal, I was hoping Harris would be an improvement over Avila but seems to be more of the same, I hope I can eat my words in a couple hours...
I especially want Eduardo traded. He's no kid and should bring alot from a team in the race! I'm so happy with Torkelson! Really coming alive and being the cleanup guy needed to replace Cabrera.


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Well they just gave away Michael Lorenzen for basically nothing, we can't have anything nice. The whitesox got far better from a worse pitcher.


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