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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: Moparnut426] #3120879
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I have been involved with a car club and judged car shows for many years. Our club does appearance judging, not concourse judging, but I have been around those who strive to make every part the correct one NOS etc. etc. And frankly to me it is only a select few who will pay tons of money for a correct car. To me it is more of does the car function and look to the casual eye like it did in the area built. The issue is whether to enjoy the vehicle and drive it or preserve it as a museum piece haul it in a trailer and store in climate-controlled room. I started driving in 1972, and by the time I was working and had money to buy a decent car, the muscle cars of the 60's were dirt cheap thanks to the two gas crunches. Roadrunners, Chargers, 340 darts Cudas could be bought for almost nothing, in 1975 I had the chance to buy a 440 6 pack convertible for $1,500.00 And I had the money, but the insurance was so expensive I passed.
I did buy a 1970 340 four speed Dart for $500.00 and drove for several years before making it a race car. When I look at or purchase a collector car it is to revive old memories, of street racing on Hwy Y west of town, Or that special weekend when you meet a girl etc. etc. I could really care less if the Alternator is numbers matching. I just want it to sound, look, and feel like it did in my youth.

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: jwb123] #3120880
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Originally Posted by jwb123
I have been involved with a car club and judged car shows for many years. Our club does appearance judging, not concourse judging, but I have been around those who strive to make every part the correct one NOS etc. etc. And frankly to me it is only a select few who will pay tons of money for a correct car. To me it is more of does the car function and look to the casual eye like it did in the area built. The issue is whether to enjoy the vehicle and drive it or preserve it as a museum piece haul it in a trailer and store in climate-controlled room. I started driving in 1972, and by the time I was working and had money to buy a decent car, the muscle cars of the 60's were dirt cheap thanks to the two gas crunches. Roadrunners, Chargers, 340 darts Cudas could be bought for almost nothing, in 1975 I had the chance to buy a 440 6 pack convertible for $1,500.00 And I had the money, but the insurance was so expensive I passed.
I did buy a 1970 340 four speed Dart for $500.00 and drove for several years before making it a race car. When I look at or purchase a collector car it is to revive old memories, of street racing on Hwy Y west of town, Or that special weekend when you meet a girl etc. etc. I could really care less if the Alternator is numbers matching. I just want it to sound, look, and feel like it did in my youth.



Agreed. I love taking my 70 Six Pack car that was customized in the early 70s to a Mopar show. You would think I killed their puppy. I can see both sides. But these cars are meant to be enjoyed. Whatever that means to YOU.

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #3120892
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This just in: my "unimpeachable source", as I call him here - who's had that same guy repair a block - gave me the info:

"Cast Iron Mike"
19106 22nd Ave NW
Arlington, WA 98223
560-657-7660

Passing it on in case someone here might need the info.

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: blue_stocker] #3120900
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Originally Posted by blue_stocker
I'd like to watch that episode...which was it? Back in the day, an old welder at MINSY told me a story of him welding a steel plate on the side of a 440 block that had been in a Calif HP, having crashed and had an actual hole in the block. He 'claimed' it never leaked! Being an old-time shipyard welder, you never know as some of those old-timers had tricks even weld engineers can't figure out...and that is a fact!



Season 15 episode 23

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: second 70] #3121033
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Mark said the car is worth 100k and 150k with numbers engine. So it was,worth the 20k to redo the engine.


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: 340SIX] #3121049
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Originally Posted by 340SIX
Mark said the car is worth 100k and 150k with numbers engine. So it was,worth the 20k to redo the engine.


laugh2 laugh2 laugh2


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: 340SIX] #3121153
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Mark said the car is worth 100k and 150k with numbers engine. So it was,worth the 20k to redo the engine.

That sounds to me to be a very inflated appraisal. There were many 383 4-speeds produced.


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: randavis] #3121210
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here is the video crappy but you get the idea..

https://youtu.be/pBL7U-9t_8I


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: abodyjoe] #3121219
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Impressive that they repaired that!

What kind of car was this for?


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3121436
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I think it was a 1971 cuda convert.

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #3121715
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
I think it was a 1971 cuda convert.


Nope just a hard top. Just typical car show hype. This car perfect isn't worth $100K let alone $150K.

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: second 70] #3121716
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Originally Posted by second 70
Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
I think it was a 1971 cuda convert.


Nope just a hard top. Just typical car show hype. This car perfect isn't worth $100K let alone $150K.


It made for a good episode, and got our attention!

Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: second 70] #3121756
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Originally Posted by second 70
Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
I think it was a 1971 cuda convert.


Nope just a hard top. Just typical car show hype. This car perfect isn't worth $100K let alone $150K.

Must be the world's most valuable 383 at 50k
For 50k it better be Hemi or as a TV show guy would say Hemmey


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Re: Graveyard cars repaired 383 MASSIVE CRACKS [Re: Moparnut426] #3121917
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The guys that agree to pay to fix that block must be stupid, down
Think about what amount of internal stress it took to break that cast iron from freezing in the valley, what did that pressure from freezing due to the cylinder walls and the rest of that block work tsk
Junk is junk tsk
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