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Oh good, even safer gas cans #3119049
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'The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is making gas cans and other fuel containers safer by requiring flame mitigation devices. The new mandatory safety standard will go into effect in July 2023. Congress required the agency to put rules into place to protect consumers under the Portable Fuel Container Safety Act (PFCSA) of 2020.

Flame mitigation devices, such as flame arrestors, protect against flame jetting and container rupturing. Flame jetting is a phenomenon where an external ignition source – such as an open flame – causes a sudden ignition of fuel within a container and forcefully expels burning vapor and liquid from the mouth of the container, resulting in a blowtorch-like effect. Container rupturing is like flame jetting, except the burning vapor and liquid are expelled through a rupture in the container.

Flame mitigation devices will be required on new gas cans and other containers that are sold empty, such as for kerosene and diesel, and on new containers that are sold pre-filled with fuels such as charcoal lighter fluid, liquid fireplace fuels and pre-mixed gasoline and engine fuel. Most fuel containers already have the safety device.

By a 4-0 vote, the CPSC made mandatory three existing voluntary standards:

ASTM F3326-21, Standard Specification for Flame Mitigation Devices on Portable Fuel Containers;
ANSI/CAN/UL/ULC 30:2022, Standard for Safety Metallic and Nonmetallic Safety Cans for Flammable and Combustible Liquids and;
ASTM F3429/F3429M-20, Standard Specification for Performance of Flame Mitigation Devices Installed in Disposable and Pre-Filled Flammable Liquid Containers.

In December 2022, the Commission also voted to update child resistance requirements for closures on portable gas cans, and diesel and kerosene containers. These requirements became effective on December 22, 2022. The revisions update the existing standard to reflect current gasoline container designs, remove ambiguities in the child test requirements, and create an adult test that reflects usage patterns. The revisions also apply requirements to aftermarket products such as pour spouts
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www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases...-Cans-and-Other-Portable-Fuel-Containers


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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: DaveRS23] #3119055
02/05/23 12:37 PM
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over...

I must be some kind of danger to society and a walking holocaust: been using Jaz race jugs for my stuff for decades...

The inmates are running the asylum.

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: topside] #3119059
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I vote for going back to gas cans of old and let Darwin take it from there...

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: topside] #3119060
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Two things I always buy at yard/garage/estate sales - good 100W bulbs, and old-school fuel containers. Our gvt is run by brain-dead idiots.

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: Jer] #3119061
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Ummm.... pic says what I cant. And this is the one gallon version.

Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 09-54-37 1 Gal SmartControl Gasoline Can - Scepter.png

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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3119075
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since the can passed the "child resistance" test, just take a child along when you refill them, and have one present when you want to dump gas in your mower. laugh2
a neighbor kid will do fine..........
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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: moparx] #3119083
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There is one of the older ones at my work where you have to pull back the nozzle to get the fuel out. Lift 5 gallons with one hand and try to use the other to pull back the nozzle then gas goes all over the place because the nozzle is partially blocked by the "safety". I put hose clamp on it to hold it open and use two hands to lift it. It still goes all over so you must use a funnel. I have one i bought for home years ago that you couldn't get the gas out no matter what you did. A half inch drill bit got it to work! How are they safer if you spill gas all over trying to get it out. realcrazy

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: Moparite] #3119089
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Get 'em while you can

Amazon 1 gal jug linky

I got these for the wife because I'm not always around. I already have the VP racing 5 gallon fuel jug, but wifey can't handle it.


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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: 3hundred] #3119103
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I don’t think O ever spilled a drop of gas in my life until the new “safe” one came out. Nearly impossible to use and not spill.

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: 340Cuda] #3119111
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
I vote for going back to gas cans of old and let Darwin take it from there...


up iagree the problem is Darwin is alive and well in D.C. twocents

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: 3hundred] #3119115
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Originally Posted by 3hundred
Get 'em while you can

Amazon 1 gal jug linky

I got these for the wife because I'm not always around. I already have the VP racing 5 gallon fuel jug, but wifey can't handle it.


Thanks for the linky! just ordered three old school spouts!

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: 3hundred] #3119118
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I see there are a lot of UHH retrofit kits available on AMZ for things like a red 5 gallon WATER jug whistling, but they all seem to have mixed reviews on fitment, leakage, longevity etc.
Does anyone here have any experiences to share (good or bad) with these retrofits as I have quite a few water jugs
TIA
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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: TJP] #3119122
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Originally Posted by TJP
I see there are a lot of UHH retrofit kits available on AMZ for things like a red 5 gallon WATER jug whistling, but they all seem to have mixed reviews on fitment, leakage, longevity etc.
Does anyone here have any experiences to share (good or bad) with these retrofits as I have quite a few water jugs
TIA beer


Amazon spout linky

We have several old plastic gas "cans", pre "safety" nonsense that needed new caps and nozzles, the ones on Amazon renovated them perfectly.

We ran out of gas near El Paso 10~15 years ago and had to buy one of the new "safety" cans, it was so useless I punched a hole in it to get gas in the Ramcharger and threw the damned thing away. Should there be a next time, it'll be a tow truck, NEVER buying one of those useless POS again.


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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: 3hundred] #3119144
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Those look like repurposed mik jugs. shruggy

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3119152
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
Ummm.... pic says what I cant. And this is the one gallon version.




Looks like $50 for a stupid gas can soon.


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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: TJP] #3119160
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Originally Posted by TJP
I see there are a lot of UHH retrofit kits available on AMZ for things like a red 5 gallon WATER jug whistling, but they all seem to have mixed reviews on fitment, leakage, longevity etc.
Does anyone here have any experiences to share (good or bad) with these retrofits as I have quite a few water jugs
TIA
beer


Tractor Supply sells "repair " kits for older cans. Funny, they fix the new cans too.

I bought my first one and was so happy with it, I went back next weekend and bought a dozen.


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Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: ruderunner] #3119186
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I found one of the newer "safe" cans on the road a few years ago, figured it had blown out of someone's truck. After trying to use it I realized they probably threw it out.

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: DaveRS23] #3119206
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Really pathetic what they will do: 99% of us have to suffer to cater to the 1% of morons out there who can't phantom that pouring gasoline MAY be dangerous.

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: ruderunner] #3119210
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Thanks to both for the replies beer

Re: Oh good, even safer gas cans [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3119229
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
Ummm.... pic says what I cant. And this is the one gallon version.



Looks like you need to log onto the internet to pour fuel... rolleyes

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