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440 fuel separator question.
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01/29/23 05:22 PM
01/29/23 05:22 PM
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stickman
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I am putting a 440 six pack engine in my 70 challenger. I know they had a fuel separator when they were new. I now have a 1/2 fuel line from the tank to the fuel pump. If I don't run the separator am I going to have fuel problems on a hot day? This is a mild build street car. Looking for people that have run without it. Thanks Guys.
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Re: 440 fuel separator question.
[Re: stickman]
#3117607
01/29/23 10:22 PM
01/29/23 10:22 PM
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Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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My old pump gas Duster (725+ HP) and my 1969 Dart GTS 383 car both have 1/2 gas lines from the tank to the HP Carter mechanical fuel pumps that never had a issue, the Dart was driven on the street and raced in the Mojave Desert Victor Valley in SO CA for years year around with no issues. I added a 3/8 pickup to the stock tank pickup along with using the stock 5/16 fed into a T hooked up to the 1/2 inch line. The Duster ran a bunch of 10.00 through the 3.0 inch exhaust and muffs with the air cleaner on, that motor was a 517 C.I. pump gas stroker with a single 1050 CFM Dominator. The Dart was a stock stroke stock bore 440 with ported 906 heads and a single Holley 950 CFM carb. Best ET was 11.17 at 122.+ MPH on a set of 28.5x10.5 slicks in Las Vegas at a race in November
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 440 fuel separator question.
[Re: lewtot184]
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01/30/23 11:07 AM
01/30/23 11:07 AM
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s. i think the mopar vapor separator is a fairly ingenious part. it filtered and eliminated the vapors, but it's at it's best when matched to the proper fuel pump. the 3-5lb big block pumps were miserable pieces. i remember fighting the vapor lock problem with a 383. it seemed the problem really raised it's ugly head at the track when folks were idling in the staging lanes. i did all kinds of silly things to cure the problem. eventually (sometime in 1968) i switched to a street hemi pump and never noticed any more vapor lock problems (i didn't do a return/vapor separator). but, the high pressure street hemi pump by itself set me up for other problems. all this works the best when parts are matched together.. I fully agree. Most folks don't realize the early MOPAR AFB floats where larger, which means they had a greater buoyance force to keep the needle closed also. That is why they can handle a higher fuel pressure. The AVS used 3 different size floats and had different float setting to account for it. The later Federal/Edelbrock use a smaller float with less bouncy force hence the 5-6 psi limit on Edlebrock. For a mechanical pump that is a constant displacement, you get faster fuel flow with a higher-pressure pump spring, which also helps keep the fuel in a liquid state in the lines. As long as the float system can handle it, and level set correctly your better off with it.
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