Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Hello everyone. This is my first post here, so I thought I'd post something as an icebreaker since I spend my days on the phone helping others. I get a few questions now and then from those who are looking at the Stealth heads and wonder if they can be ported to Max Wedge. I grabbed an old MW ported casting and rough-CC'd an intake port, doing the same for the current CNC offering. CC's are rough since I didn't have my plexiglass here at work. MW = 270ish, just in case someone wants to run a MW-sized non-raised runner head. I didn't think I'd be one of those guys, but here we are...mostly because what I'm building needs to look "correct".
Standard port Stealths are 255ish as advertised; you'll have to port them to MW if you wish to go this route vs buying TF270's or a set of Indy's.
Mike
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Thanks for the tech tip!! And thanks for bringing us all those parts and info!! I regularly read and reread the info posted on your site about factory B and RB blocks.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
[Re: Mike@440Source]
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I have the batwing gasket holders that allow a guy to use those heads with a billet valley plate and a high rise type intake manifold such as an Indy 400-2 or a 440-2. AR397 is the MW version of the batwing. AR392 is the std port version of the batwing. https://arengineering.com/home-page/valley-plates/
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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I ported my Super Stealth heads to Max wedge, run them on my 68 Charger street car along with 440 source 512 Stroker set up
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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I love 440 Source. Their tech pages are wonderful and parts selection is great.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Well Mike, Welcome to Moparts.......
I am a long time customer of Ron Farley's.....And occasionally helping hand around the shop.....We have built so many of your stroker kits, its not funny. I think three already since this past September. So we are always looking on your website. My next order is hopefully one of your 572 kits I see you offer.....But I need a low compression one and a block...So nice to see you offer a 4.5x4.5 kit now....
We have been as quick as 9.50 with one of your strokers and Indy heads...Hope to better that this year.
And, I believe Ron ported a set of Stealth heads to MW size this past month or so.....We have a street car those are going on.....Went 10.76 last year with a 15 year old 512 stroker kit we purchased from 440Source with Iron heads....That just kept running...
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Been 10.01 @ 3,700 lbs. on pump gas through the mufflers with cnc'd Stealth heads.
7th year of them being on the car with over 7,000 miles.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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I have the batwing gasket holders that allow a guy to use those heads with a billet valley plate and a high rise type intake manifold such as an Indy 400-2 or a 440-2. AR397 is the MW version of the batwing. AR392 is the std port version of the batwing. https://arengineering.com/home-page/valley-plates/ How did I not know about these? I just wasted a 1214 swapping an intake.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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I have the batwing gasket holders that allow a guy to use those heads with a billet valley plate and a high rise type intake manifold such as an Indy 400-2 or a 440-2. AR397 is the MW version of the batwing. AR392 is the std port version of the batwing. https://arengineering.com/home-page/valley-plates/ How did I not know about these? I just wasted a 1214 swapping an intake. Not a very popular part since the low port MW stuff isn't super popular. Almost all MW heads these days are raised port with extended runners. With the extended runners the head seals directly to the valley plate. But with a stock location MW head you need some sort of way to seal to the valley plate in order to run a single plane. I don't sell very many of the AR397 so it kind of gets lost in the shuffle.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Been 10.01 @ 3,700 lbs. on pump gas through the mufflers with cnc'd Stealth heads.
7th year of them being on the the car with over 7,000 miles.
I spy some suspicious looking split loom there
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Been 10.01 @ 3,700 lbs. on pump gas through the mufflers with cnc'd Stealth heads.
7th year of them being on the the car with over 7,000 miles.
I spy some suspicious looking split loom there I always leave the hood up at the track and get quite a few lookee lous. I have smaller, black rubber hose on that now and an older guy was commenting that my vacuum advance hose had fallen off...
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Very cool! Welcome to moparts! Thank you! I just noticed...you're in Rogue River? That's where I bought my car! Rat Rod Ray ring a bell? Mike
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
[Re: Mike@440Source]
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Small world! A good friend of mine is friends with ray. Make sure to check out Medford Dragstrip if you get in the area.
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Re: Stealth Heads, Max Wedge vs Std Port
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Been 10.01 @ 3,700 lbs. on pump gas through the mufflers with cnc'd Stealth heads.
7th year of them being on the the car with over 7,000 miles.
I spy some suspicious looking split loom there I always leave the hood up at the track and get quite a few lookee lous. I have smaller, black rubber hose on that now and an older guy was commenting that my vacuum advance hose had fallen off... Ah shucks where will we find 9/32 vac hose at this time of night?? : D That is such a cool car
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