Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: Sammy]
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01/15/23 06:33 PM
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DEF tank needs to be replaced!? The DEF tank is likely made out of polyethelene or similar plastic. Unless the DEF fuel is contaminated with silicone I really doubt a DEF tank can go bad. Or is there something integral to the DEF tank that requires it be replaced in total. Perhaps the DEF tank heater is integral to the tank? I could see a tank heater failing.
With the cost of diesel going far more than gasoline, and the fact you have to buy DEF for it as well, if you can get a good trade value for it I'd go to a gas engine. Those are WAY too many issues for a truck, that to me, for the miles is nearly new.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: Andyvh1959]
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DEF tank needs to be replaced!? The DEF tank is likely made out of polyethelene or similar plastic. Unless the DEF fuel is contaminated with silicone I really doubt a DEF tank can go bad. Or is there something integral to the DEF tank that requires it be replaced in total. Perhaps the DEF tank heater is integral to the tank? I could see a tank heater failing.
With the cost of diesel going far more than gasoline, and the fact you have to buy DEF for it as well, if you can get a good trade value for it I'd go to a gas engine. Those are WAY too many issues for a truck, that to me, for the miles is nearly new. DEf heater went bad inside tank. DEF Fluid couldn't get contaminated. I was told never to fill it 100% and let it run down. I put in one jug each time. Every jug is sealed. Is this the norm for these diesel trucks?
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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Every day I am more thankful I bought a 2010 Cummins, the last Def-free year. Also the last year they were officially Dodges rather than Rams. 2012 was is the last year for no DEF. And I am glad I have one of those!
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: J_BODY]
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I love the smell of diesel. I'll keep my old VE pumped 12 valve thank you.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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I love the smell of diesel. I'll keep my old VE pumped 12 valve thank you. While I can see why you enjoy your tractor, I’ve come to love how much more relaxing it is to drive my 17 3500 over even my 01. I brought an 11 home back in 17 that got traded in. My mild modded 01 towed circles around it, but to be fair I’d a deleted and tuned that anyways. The 17 I have is an absolute joy to tow with. The addition of a Titan 55 tank has extended our range to 600 miles towing the race trailer.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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01/18/23 09:36 AM
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I love the smell of diesel. I'll keep my old VE pumped 12 valve thank you. Is the 1992 VE 12 valve significantly different than the 1994 or 1995 Cummins 12 Valve?
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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Good friend has a '16 3500 he bought new. Last year at 40k miles, his went into limp mode with a DEF code. Dealer quoted him $3500(?) for all kinds of related parts. I guess they just play it safe and replace everything. Did a little research and checked the injector which was out of spec. $300 and some change later he's back on the road. So far, it's the only problem he has had with it. Hope I haven't jinxed him. Tim
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: J_BODY]
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01/23/23 09:53 AM
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To the person who posted about working at a Peterbuilt dealership and seeing all kinds of DEF issues, can you list them for us? It'd be interesting to understand how many are system issues, design issues, user issues, etc.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
[Re: 360view]
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01/25/23 07:30 PM
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I love the smell of diesel. I'll keep my old VE pumped 12 valve thank you. Is the 1992 VE 12 valve significantly different than the 1994 or 1995 Cummins 12 Valve? The engine it self is the same. The only diesel I ever owned that I like was my old 12V VE pump, I ran it off used oil at the honda dealer I worked at. It was quite easy to turn up the power just a little from turning a couple screws and was very reliable and had a really neat feel but my 2011 2500 Ram with my "special built" 6.4 hemi tows a lot better and gets almost as good MPG as the old 12 valve did.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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The engine it self is the same. The only diesel I ever owned that I like was my old 12V VE pump, I ran it off used oil at the honda dealer I worked at. It was quite easy to turn up the power just a little from turning a couple screws and was very reliable and had a really neat feel but my 2011 2500 Ram with my "special built" 6.4 hemi tows a lot better and gets almost as good MPG as the old 12 valve did.
“Special built” 6.4….. is that a subtle hint that it ate the camshaft and you had to overhaul? After 20 years of owning a diesel I pretty much had myself convinced to go the 6.4 route. Properly equipped they have quite the job rating. Driving empty I see “some” with avg mpg numbers in the shop that are not too much worse than my CTD. Obviously towing those numbers split, but for how often I tow anymore the much less costly initial investment I would be ahead $$$ anyways. It’s not been kind for the past year being a diesel owner for sure with the fuel costs.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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01/30/23 06:52 AM
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Every day I am more thankful I bought a 2010 Cummins, the last Def-free year. Also the last year they were officially Dodges rather than Rams. 2012 was is the last year for no DEF. And I am glad I have one of those! My bad. Got confused with the other marques.
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Re: Am I the only one with this ongoing problem?
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It’s not been kind for the past year being a diesel owner for sure with the fuel costs. It should not be forgotten that the big $ root problem was making ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) maximum sulfur level so low that only adding in highly expensive synthetic diesel fuel made from pure natural gas could get the blended fuel down to this sulfur level. Remember when Diesel Fuel cost less per gallon than gasoline? This is such a massive mistake. It would make more sense to stop growing all the corn for ethanol, and devote that massive farming acreage to growing peanuts and blending peanut oil in to make ULSD. Peanut (and other plant oils) are nearly sulfur free. Just like corn made into ethanol leaves “Distiller’s Grain” byproduct to feed to farm animals, oil from peanuts would leave a byproduct food rich in protein. When Rudolf Diesel could not make his engine invention work on coal dust, one of his coal mine engineer uncles suggested that he “temporarily” switch to peanut oil to work the bugs out. He got bugs worked out and switched to kerosene, then heavy oil. The ULSD mistake is so big it is hard to wrap your brain around how it came to be law.
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