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Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: PhillyRag] #3109915
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They did on drum brake cars - I don't think it can be done with discs.

Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: Alaskan_TA] #3109918
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Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA

Also, the red was painted on with a brush right before the wheels were installed.


Also NO PAINT ON WHEEL CONTACT AREA, as per the factory sheet.

And also I don't know if this factory sheet is for all brake drums but /6\ reads (WITH STYLED WHEELS ONLY)


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Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: PhillyRag] #3109948
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by a12rag
I would say YES the brake drum was painted if it had rallye wheels from factory. My 1974 Duster360 with rallyes, had the OE rear drums on it when I got car, they were painted red. Gotta say, love it when you look thru the "slots" of the wheel . . . here is my Sport Satellite, that came with road wheels (magnum 500 style) . . . love it when light hit it !
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Red showing ONLY thru the rear rallyes kinda looks goofy.
Why didn't they balance it out by red on fronts?


probably had disc brakes. nothing red to paint

Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: 69Chrgr] #3110304
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Yup front disc brake . . . although as mentioned, probably could have put a "slash" of red on outside of caliper . . .but, no where near as prevalent as the full drum look . . .

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I found this

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Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: a12rag] #3110391
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Someone didn't get the memo wink

But it does appear to be more red on the outside of the caliper with overspray on the rear part???

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This one with the "recall wheels" seems to be a drum brake car?? scope

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Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: A12] #3110410
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My 71 St. Louis built GTX has painted rear drums from the factory. Has original rally wheels on it.

Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: A727Tflite] #3110419
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The 1972 Barracuda I ordered new has the Ralley wheels. The brake drums came with the red on the outer surface. It was a sloppy job but only noticeable with a wheel off. It has 4-wheel drums, and they were all painted the same way.

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Goes to show: can't always believe that what's in shop bulletins/on blueprints isn't always implemented in production.
Who wants to say WHY the red paint; rather then Was or Wasn't applied..

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Someone didn't get the memo wink

But it does appear to be more red on the outside of the caliper with overspray on the rear part???

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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Goes to show: can't always believe that what's in shop bulletins/on blueprints isn't always implemented in production.
Who wants to say WHY the red paint; rather then Was or Wasn't applied..

Originally Posted by A12
Someone didn't get the memo wink

But it does appear to be more red on the outside of the caliper with overspray on the rear part???


"WHY?" Have you ever seen how rusted brake drums or calipers look through the openings of a custom wheel, pretty sure the styling and marketing department asked for them to be paint. I think that's WHY they have "coated" brake drums and brake discs but not just for wheel openings but in general to minimize rust?

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Front disc brake calipers splashed with red paint is a first for me. I don't think I have ever seen that done on any reference restoration, or survivor cars, in my pile of Mopar 'zines or photos of restored cars online.

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"WHY?" Have you ever seen how rusted brake drums or calipers look through the openings of a custom wheel, pretty sure the styling and marketing department asked for them to be paint. I think that's WHY they have "coated" brake drums and brake discs but not just for wheel openings but in general to minimize rust?


Too cover any rust ??? I doubt it.
Of all the colors to choose, they pick Red?
Better with a more neutral color, like black gray etc.
Now red showing may be a "hip/sporty" thing to do wrt owners, but still stupid if you had a green, violet, yellow car.
Some rust color showing would look better then red.
Coatings from the factory on Machined metal parts are there ONLY to prevent flash rust until it leaves the showroom floor.
Really think Chrysler worried about some rust showing after a few years after sold?

Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: PhillyRag] #3110734
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
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"WHY?" Have you ever seen how rusted brake drums or calipers look through the openings of a custom wheel, pretty sure the styling and marketing department asked for them to be paint. I think that's WHY they have "coated" brake drums and brake discs but not just for wheel openings but in general to minimize rust?


Too cover any rust ??? I doubt it.
Of all the colors to choose, they pick Red?
Better with a more neutral color, like black gray etc.
Now red showing may be a "hip/sporty" thing to do wrt owners, but still stupid if you had a green, violet, yellow car.
Some rust color showing would look better then red.
Coatings from the factory on Machined metal parts are there ONLY to prevent flash rust until it leaves the showroom floor.
Really think Chrysler worried about some rust showing after a few years after sold?



Well maybe not "after a few years" but in general for the optics for the first few months or a year or so. Same reason IMO they did the blackout behind the grills and taillight/filler panels. With using red as a color on green, yellow, etc., well I guess the red '69 Air Grabber grills skewed that too. I also guess using red would show the wheel openings as openings and not appear as black painted areas like the painted road wheel sections. Red sure is noticeable and that it is behind the wheels and not black paint on the wheels. Not too many high end or performance cars this day without painted or coated disc brake calipers. Wonder too if Mopar was the first production vehicle with (partially) painted/coated brake drums and calipers? Trend setters.....maybe wink grin

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Red visible in the wheel area must have been a thing for a few years anyways.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...c-wheel-well-liner-restoration-tips.html

Also think some years of Oldsmobile 442 had red fender well plastic as an option also?

Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: Neil] #3110807
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Seems obvious to me that the red accents were to make the feature area "pop", and somehow the bean-counters and assembly plants signed off on it.
The musclecar market was very competitive: that's why little things were done to differentiate & hype interest.
(Side note: bear in mind for all this stuff that cars were usually traded in at 3 years; also, automakers were just trying to get through the warranty period.)
Yes, red fender liners were an Olds 442 thing for a while; I had a '68 Barracuda 340-S that also had them, very rare. They did look a bit odd on a light green car.

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Let's see now: Drums painted red Yes, but Calipers No.
Then "optics" doesn't apply then, since same wheels front-rear.

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"WHY?" Have you ever seen how rusted brake drums or calipers look through the openings of a custom wheel, pretty sure the styling and marketing department asked for them to be paint. I think that's WHY they have "coated" brake drums and brake discs but not just for wheel openings but in general to minimize rust?


Too cover any rust ??? I doubt it.
Of all the colors to choose, they pick Red?
Better with a more neutral color, like black gray etc.
Now red showing may be a "hip/sporty" thing to do wrt owners, but still stupid if you had a green, violet, yellow car.
Some rust color showing would look better then red.
Coatings from the factory on Machined metal parts are there ONLY to prevent flash rust until it leaves the showroom floor.
Really think Chrysler worried about some rust showing after a few years after sold?



Well maybe not "after a few years" but in general for the optics for the first few months or a year or so. Same reason IMO they did the blackout behind the grills and taillight/filler panels. With using red as a color on green, yellow, etc., well I guess the red '69 Air Grabber grills skewed that too. I also guess using red would show the wheel openings as openings and not appear as black painted areas like the painted road wheel sections. Red sure is noticeable and that it is behind the wheels and not black paint on the wheels. Not too many high end or performance cars this day without painted or coated disc brake calipers. Wonder too if Mopar was the first production vehicle with (partially) painted/coated brake drums and calipers? Trend setters.....maybe wink grin


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Philly are you saying that you couldn't see the front brake caliper through the openings of the "recall" wheel? At the time of the bulletin, and the sales slide show film, they didn't know the wheel would be recalled and the calipers were for sure painted red. I'm pretty sure regardless the brake drums were painted red for "optics" and so were the front brake calipers too with any custom wheel option. As stated, it's all about the money so why waste the time and money for paint and someone to brush it on if it was for no reason.........except optics. Why do behind the front grill, headlight and rear taillight blackout that is already painted??

Mike

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Re: Brake Drum -Red [Re: RR6BBL1969] #3111258
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Originally Posted by RR6BBL1969
I have a 1971 Demon, Orange Paint. While cleaning the rear brake drums , I noticed black paint on the face of the drum but underneath was red paint. Should the drum facing be red?


Okay, here it is with wheels that came on the car. As you can see, the red shows thru the wheel holes but doesn’t have the same look as with cars and their Magnum 500’s (IMO). I’m thinking maybe the factory blacked them out (black over red) in ‘71 depending on what type wheels came on the car ?

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