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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: 440Jim] #3109228
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It was a bit difficult to measure the ports. The hand work on the RPM went deeper than 1" and the floors of the low side ports dropped so much that the spring calipers barely fit. The injector bungs were also 1" in so I had to measure the height off to the side of the ports.

Measuring 2" in was not possible due to the curves so I stuck with the port window and 1" deep. Dividers were measured at the opening and as deep as I could sink the dial calipers jaws.

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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: feets] #3109239
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Originally Posted by feets
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by INTMD8
Looks nice.

No problem using a dual plane with port injection.

I thought that the single plane intakes were needed for either the MAP or MAS sensors to be accurate for the AFR tuning for the ECU to work best in closed loop confusedshruggy


Manifold pressures should remain fairly constant across the manifold with each runner varying that wee tiny bit with intake pulses. Those pulses should be the same values for each hole unless you've torched something important.

What screws up throttle body style injection systems are full height plenum dividers. That creates an irregular vacuum signal to the sensors in the throttle body. Cutting down the divider or using an open carb spacer stabilizes the signal, just like with a carb.

and I've had very good luck with an rpm performer intake on my turbo efi 383 with a sheet metal elbow and forward facing Ford style TB.


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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: HardcoreB] #3109298
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"feets",
Thanks for the effort. I was using telescoping gages to measure the ID, so I was able to reach into the port a little deeper. But with the curve, turns, angles, etc. it is hard to get a good number.

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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: 440Jim] #3109428
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I've got a set or five of those things. The injector bungs would have been in the way so I stuck with skinny spring calipers. biggrin


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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: furious70] #3109429
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Originally Posted by furious70

and I've had very good luck with an rpm performer intake on my turbo efi 383 with a sheet metal elbow and forward facing Ford style TB.


The low divider of the RPM and that long elbow would straighten out any signal bouncing off the throttle blade. However, it would make for a train wreck if you were squinting fuel all the way up there.


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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: feets] #3109446
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Seems like they have a lot of different needs covered...

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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: Dragula] #3109480
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Dragula usually when I see injectors like that its for supplemental fuel for a boosted application.


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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: Dragula] #3109620
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The long curved elbows can cause problems with some intakes due to the velocity difference between the short side and long side.


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Re: Wilson Manifolds made Christmas that much better. [Re: feets] #3109627
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Originally Posted by feets
Originally Posted by furious70

and I've had very good luck with an rpm performer intake on my turbo efi 383 with a sheet metal elbow and forward facing Ford style TB.


The low divider of the RPM and that long elbow would straighten out any signal bouncing off the throttle blade. However, it would make for a train wreck if you were squinting fuel all the way up there.


No fuel, but water injection ahead of the throttle blade and it seems happy enough about it. 30-40* temp drop and plugs that all look very similar to each other. If I run out of injector I will experiment with meth mixed in.


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