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Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: migsBIG] #3106569
12/30/22 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by migsBIG
Since I’m bad with my hands and rode the little yellow school bus til college, I won’t be working on a distributor myself. laugh2

There used to be about 1/2 dozen distributors used since the 1990’s, but looks like MSD is the more popular, dependable unit. It’s the big dollar, but worth it if it work as intended (or better). If the relict or seems to corroded a lot, are this in areas with lots of snow, rain and salt in the winter seasons?


It's the ozone produced by the hi voltage. When the spark jumps from the rotor to cap, ozone is produced, it's a corrosive gas and a product of the physics and chemistry going on in there.
Venting the cap better and checking phasing may help but I think the main issue was the coating, (if any), MSD applied to the iron parts in there. Seems it's less of an issue these days so perhaps processes may have changed.
It never caused any misfire or timing issues with my stuff, I just used to strip and clean them every season, a while ago I clear coated one of the dizzy's Fe parts (with a brush). Seems to have held up OK


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Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: migsBIG] #3106579
12/30/22 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by migsBIG
Since I’m bad with my hands and rode the little yellow school bus til college, I won’t be working on a distributor myself. laugh2

There used to be about 1/2 dozen distributors used since the 1990’s, but looks like MSD is the more popular, dependable unit. It’s the big dollar, but worth it if it work as intended (or better). If the relict or seems to corroded a lot, are this in areas with lots of snow, rain and salt in the winter seasons?


My car almost never sees rain and never snow and the reluctor would rust, we do have lots of humidity in KY though. I never had any issues caused by the corroded reluctor, but I pulled and cleaned it once a year.

I think Tig well covered the reason for the corrosion.

Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: tboomer] #3106582
12/30/22 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tboomer
Doug...How do you ID the 440 source distributor? I have an aluminum one here but I can't find any markings on it. Sorry for the hi-jack!


Bilet polished aluminum. No markings. Uses plug style terminals. Mopar style cap retention. Cap and rotor terminals are brass. Sorry this is the best pic I have. I welded up the advance mecanisum. Also bought an extra cap and rotor in 2012 when it was purchased. Swapped in the new cap and rotor in 2018. The original was perfect. But figured I had a new one. Kept the old one for a spare. There has never been any corosion. Car has never misfired, ever.
Doug

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Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: dvw] #3106588
12/30/22 10:35 AM
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Thanks Doug! That's what I have! Mine doesn't have any weights or guts in it so I think it was probably set up for a crank trigger....I only paid 10.00 for it a couple of years ago... wave


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Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: rebel] #3106593
12/30/22 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rebel
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I had a MSD for a while, but they're big, annoyingly big, have to remove the cap to take the rocker covers off big. I recently bought a Summit pro billet distributor & its a good piece. Cap doesn't get in the way of the rocker covers & it uses the Chrysler style trigger. Comparing the prices of all the distributors on the market, I feel these are good value for money.


The Summit ProBillet is the same as the one that Fire Core used to sell - it will self destruct sooner or later! I have had three of them - all did the same thing - pure Junk


How do they self destruct? The Mechanix of it is the same as a std mopar unit & they last forever, im sure Noah had one on his Ark.


While they appear to look like the old Mallory produced Mopar distributer they are nothing more than a Chinese copy - the advance assembly will eventually break the plastic bushings and grind against the case - check the advance adjustment screws - if they start to come loose it will self destruct - supposedly they improved on it - but no way to tell which one you have - I will never trust one - for the price difference the MSD is the way to go!

Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: migsBIG] #3106641
12/30/22 12:59 PM
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I think first question should be what kind of box are you going to trigger with the distributor? And what type of signal is that box built to read? The MSD distributor is about as reliable as any I have used over the years. The MSD, stock mopar and majority of performance distributors use a magnetic pickup that generates a A/C voltage signal. That voltage increases as the RPM increases, the ignition box will trigger anytime it sees voltage over a certain threshold. Usually you will only have a problem if the pickup is generating a dirty signal, with stray voltage spikes. If you are using a distributor and ignition system on an aftermarket electronic injection system, best to ask the company what kind of signal the ECM likes, some are picky. I once used a Chinese MSD copy distributor, which actually made a higher voltage on the distributor machine than an MSD distributor, but the FiTech ECM did not like the excessive signal for example.

The other two types of sensors used by the OEM are Hall effect and optical sensors. Optical sensors are the most accurate but most expensive rpm signal you can get to my knowledge. Hall effect sensors generate a digital on off signal also very accurate.

Re: Who makes builds the Most dependable/accurate distributor? [Re: jwb123] #3106696
12/30/22 03:31 PM
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any luck with a pertronix conversion ?
i have done two for my one buddy, one a small block, the other a big block.
they seem to be working good all these years later, but he just putts around. no performance/foot to the floor use.
i have no problem modifying a factory distributor, but i did fabricate a pair of pliers to remove that pesky clip below the rotor.
beer

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