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Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: fastmark] #3107147
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Originally Posted by fastmark
Originally Posted by moparmarks
So if the diaphragm clutch is such a poor setup why did Chrysler pretty much ditch the B&D for the diaphragm in the 80's? My 87 D150, 91 CTD and 98 Dakota all came with a diaphragm clutch.


All of these applications were designed by the factory to work with a diaphragm clutch and all the linkages worked with them. The older muscle cars linkage rates were designed for the Borg and Beck. That’s all I don’t like about them. I’ve driven several with them Centerforce and they work, just not the same as the original design Borg and Beck. Different preferences for different people.

I understand all that. Some are saying that the diaphragm clutch is just a poor design but yet most everything made in the last 30 years uses a diaphragm clutch. Why isn't everything using a B&B?
I'm not dissing to B&B. I've used a lot of them and will use more of them.


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Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: moparmarks] #3107164
01/01/23 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by moparmarks
So if the diaphragm clutch is such a poor setup why did Chrysler pretty much ditch the B&B for the diaphragm in the 80's? My 87 D150, 91 CTD and 98 Dakota all came with a diaphragm clutch.


because of cost savings, they are a cheaper product.

Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: B1MAXX] #3107173
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Originally Posted by moparmarks
So if the diaphragm clutch is such a poor setup why did Chrysler pretty much ditch the B&B for the diaphragm in the 80's? My 87 D150, 91 CTD and 98 Dakota all came with a diaphragm clutch.


because of cost savings, they are a cheaper product.


They are a better product. Better clamping force for less pedal pressure.

Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: Sniper] #3107177
01/01/23 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Originally Posted by moparmarks
So if the diaphragm clutch is such a poor setup why did Chrysler pretty much ditch the B&B for the diaphragm in the 80's? My 87 D150, 91 CTD and 98 Dakota all came with a diaphragm clutch.


because of cost savings, they are a cheaper product.


They are a better product. Better clamping force for less pedal pressure.


???????? How many parts are in a diaphragm?, what does the clamping?

How are diaphragm clutch kits under 100 bucks (some well under, even BB Chevy apps), including pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing, and fork.

You cant get a B&B plate alone for under 100.

This is ridiculous.

Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: B1MAXX] #3107442
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by B1MAXX
Originally Posted by moparmarks
So if the diaphragm clutch is such a poor setup why did Chrysler pretty much ditch the B&B for the diaphragm in the 80's? My 87 D150, 91 CTD and 98 Dakota all came with a diaphragm clutch.


because of cost savings, they are a cheaper product.


They are a better product. Better clamping force for less pedal pressure.


???????? How many parts are in a diaphragm?, what does the clamping?

How are diaphragm clutch kits under 100 bucks (some well under, even BB Chevy apps), including pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing, and fork.

You cant get a B&B plate alone for under 100.

This is ridiculous.


Maybe because they produce diaphragm style for the millions of chevy's out there and as we know they get cheaper the more that are produced. Not saying I'm correct just another opinion and we know what they're like.

Re: Recommendations on clutches [Re: Bennoel 10] #3107912
01/03/23 08:23 AM
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We've had a CF dual friction in our Challenger since 2004. I've put 100 or so passes on it with slicks. I releases fine. Never slips or shudders. My wife drives it easily as it was built for her. The over center spring has been removed. I see zero issue with "release rate". Best clutch I've ever used.
Doug

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