Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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Up here in Wisconsin we can get a Collector or Hobbyist license plate for older or modified vehicles. Good thing about the Collector of Hobbyist license is the one time registration, paid once and done.
I recently bought a 56 Dodge C1-B8 pickup truck, and I need to find the original name for the Collector license plate on my 56. I looked up the number on the WI DOT website and it shows the plate is still current, registered until 12/31/3999. But now I need to transfer the title (currently lost) to my name. Once my 56 is back on the road as my daily driver it could be licensed as a truck, to register every other year, or register as a Collector or Hobbyist vehicle. However, this 56 will be my daily driver, and in Wisconsin a vehicle with a Collector or Hobbyist registration cannot legally be driven/used during the month of January. I'll have to find out from my friend's at the local sheriff department why the Collector or Hobbyist plate don't allow driving the vehicle in January.
Are other specialty license plates similar in other states? I wonder too, why a WI Collector or Hobbyist plate does not allow the vehicle to be legally driven for only the month of January. In WI a vehicle with a Collector plate can be driven in January, for only five days, if the plate holder submits a MV2750 temporary registration form.
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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Not paranoid at all, realistic is more like it. Anyone that thinks the government is solely working for our best interest in naive at best, and ignorant to the truth.
Yeah, I'll likely register my pickup as a truck and pay my highway use dues so I can use it as i see fit.
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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11/21/22 09:46 AM
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Yeah, I'll likely register my pickup as a truck and pay my highway use dues so I can use it as i see fit.
That is what I did with my 51. Regular plates.
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11/21/22 03:46 PM
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I have collector plates on a couple cars ..
anything 30 years or older, it cost 10 bucks , they ask you to limit your driving to 2500 per year , they ask you do only go too and from events , they also year of make plates for 10 bucks but, you have to go find a nice pair at the swap meet
both are a 1 time pay
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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Quite different in South Dakota than in Wisconsin. The fee for a Collector or Hobbyist plate on a pickup is $250, for a car its $200.But once paid that plate is not renewed bi-annually like a regular plate. Here in WI the Collector or Hobbyist plated vehicle is limited to no legal use in January. Also, for a pickup truck the load carried is limited to 500 lbs. Since I plan to haul motorcycles that means an officer could pull me over suspecting the motorcycle in back weighs more than 500 lb should I have a Collector plate on my 56 pickup. I think the standard plate registration fee for a 1/2 ton pickup in WI is $125 for two years.
Now, some will say "WI is expensive to register a vehicle." But, WI has no toll roads, but WI has higher gas tax, some communities have a road use tax. WI registration fee is not calibrated to the vehicle market value, same fee for a 1956 pickup or a 2022 pickup. Also, other than a few counties around Milwaukee and Madison, WI does not require a vehicle/emissions inspection in order to register your vehicle. So up here in Green Bay, if the catalytic converter has gone awry you can just cut it out of the exhaust and pipe it through (yes, you'll have to tweak an O2 sensor to avoid a fault code). Interesting thought, since I plan to mount the cab/box of my 56 Dodge pickup onto my 2001 Dakota chassis, in WI the 56 cab VIN will identify it as a 1956 Dodge. As such I can legally use it as a 1956 vehicle relative to emissions. So I can chose to not have catalytic convertors in the exhaust.
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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As such I can legally use it as a 1956 vehicle relative to emissions. No, you cannot legally do that. The federal emissions laws are related to the date of manufacture for EITHER the vehicle, or the engine, whichever is newer. Legally, you'd be required to meet 2001 emissions, all of them, including vapor capture. The feds have been cracking down, hard, of late. It's trickling down to the hoobyist level.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification. So you are saying even though my Dakota will become a 56 Dodge (as the 56 serial number will become the VIN), the state will maintain the emission standards for the 2001 donor chassis under the 56 Dodge. I do hope to use the plastic fuel tank and entire fuel system (including the filler neck, hose, vent, charcoal filter, etc) from my 2001 Dakota for the 56 Dodge project. My goal is to basically turn the 2001 Dakota sheet metal into 56 Dodge sheet metal, but use all of the Dakota mechanical systems. The current cat in my Dakota works fine, so hopefully it too can move over to the 56 build.
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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anymore, in pennsylvania, there are so many antique, classic, and collector type tags available, plus year of manufacturer tags allowed, it's hard to decide exactly what a guy may want to title his ride as. it's also just as hard for the police to decide if you have the wrong type tag in use. in all tag descriptions, there are places your lawyer can point out that a discrepancy exists, allowing you to use the tag you have displayed. as for example, the "antique" tag strictly states the vehicle in question must be as manufactured. it is also allowed on all vehicles 25 years old and older. you must also have a registered vehicle to use as daily transportation. there are other restrictions as well. however giving a classic example of a vehicle that "qualifies" [and has done so for 60 years or more], is the ford "speedster". henry never "manufactured" any example, yet in the days of old, guys removed fenders and bumpers, plus modified the bodies of model t's to go faster. not exactly in the "spirit" of the antique tag's description. it used to be necessary for four pictures to be included in an "antique" application, now, no pictures are necessary. just the 25 years and older stipulation. as this tag requires no annual safety inspection, and is a lifetime tag, more and more guys are using this tag for everything under the sun, vehicle wise. i guess my point is, just behave yourself out there, and make sure your ride is safe. we did this way back when, and the police gave us way more thumbs up than tickets. my personal experience in life. your mileage will vary.
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i have historic plates plates in missouri on 3 of my vehicles.dont needed to get them inspected no more.and the plates dont need to be renewed Yeah, I'm in Missouri also and I've just registered my 62 dune buggy with a 1962 year of manufacture plate. I also registered my 1988 Plymouth Reliant K Car with 1988 year on manufacture plate too. It's clean for an 88 and it's just a spare backup vehicle. The 67 Plymouth Satellite that I had about 5 or 6 years ago had year on manufacture plate on it too.
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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How a Model Year Plate almost got me arrested.
In Ohio (where I used to live) you can get a Historical plate with a one time fee that lasts forever. It's good for a vehicle over 25 years old that isn't a daily driver. Once you get the Historical plate you can then take a Model Year plate to the BMV and they will register it to your car. My wife bought me a very nice set of 1970 Ohio plates. I registered them at the BMV as required and had them on my car for years. One night as I was driving home from a local cruise I got pulled over by a young small town Cop.(we'll call him Cop#1) He wanted to know why I had Government plates on my old car. 1970 Ohio plates were red letters on white background and so are all Ohio Government plates. I tried to explain Model Year plates and he wasn't buying it. Never heard of such a thing. The plates literally say 1970 on them in the same place as Government plates would say Government. He said that just meant they where 1970 Government plates. By this time his Backup arrived (Cop#2). I could tell that cop#2 wasn't so sure that cop#1 was right but he wouldn't say anything. Cop#1 wanted to cuff me and call a wrecker. Finally another Cop shows up (Cop#3) and he is a Sgt. Cop#3 listens to Cop#1 rant. Then listens to my explanation. Cop#3 tells Cop#1 and Cop#2 they can leave. He tells me to go straight home and come back to the station tomorrow with all the paper work for the previous normal plate, the Historical plate and the model Year plate as well as the copy of the applicable laws that I told him I had and he would straighten this all out with Cop#1.
I went home and immediatly took the Model Year plate off and hung it on the wall.
Now I live in Tennessee and they have Antique plates but their law clearly states that you can not have any modifications to the engine or body. Not going to work for me. There are plenty of modified cars running around here with antique plates but I don't intend to stand on side of the road with another rookie cop for 45 minutes so no Antique plate or Model Year plate for me,
Never heard what happened to Cop#1. I imagine he got a lot of ribbing and then they all went down the road to Dunkin Donuts.
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Re: Collector or Hobbyist license plate
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Ha. Good bet that anyone working at the DOT or DMV is a good bit younger than most anyone on this site. Also, I'd bet very few of them have NO knowledge of what real cars used to be. Case in point, why would any "stock" car havesomething sticking up through the hood? I wonder how many Plymouth Superbird or Dodge Charger Daytona, or even a 1970 Mercury Meteor owner would have to explain that their car is completely stock, even with huge wings and things sticking out. Pretty much anyone born after 1980 has little knowledge of the vehicles we strive to enjoy.
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