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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: Dragula] #3070569
08/22/22 05:36 PM
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Pretty much make patterns, templates, cut the patches-often slightly oversize,
Lay them in place, hold down with screws or clecos, cut through both layers (the patch and the repair area)
At the same time but only partially, tack weld while pushing down/holding the patch flush with a screwdriver or similar.
Slowly cut and tack until you're all the way around each patch, stitch weld, then grind using anything from
An angle grinder to sandpaper rolls/cartridges, to mini (13” belt) sander.
Welding and grinding takes some time, fitting the patches has to be right and you
must cut into good metal.

Fitzees fabrication on youtube is a good resource for doing this without much in the way of special tools.

I use mig because I have appropriate equipment for sheetmetal and experience with it, but for the highest possible quality I feel that
oxy-acetylene with jewler's torch and/or tig (possibly a combination)
is most likely the final frontier for larger jobs because the weld is a much softer composition, less stiff, and easier to work with...however the
tedious nature of the job will be amplified with other methods.


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3089995
10/28/22 05:31 PM
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Things slowed down undesirably but that's how it goes when your employer fires 3000 people in one week.
Two days after the last post, after over 8 years service, I had to start over. A little turmoil resulted.
I picked away at the project but tried not to spend any money, and partially failed.

About a month later I got an all-around way better job somewhere else....so time to get cracking again.

One door is race ready, if there is any such thing.

Ended up doing more repairs to the inner, then using a crazy combination of
acid wash and blasting to clean it, then a few coats of epoxy. The skin was more straightforward to install than I thought it would be.
I can say that AMD door skin really did fit perfectly, the prep issues that I did have were my own fault and inexperience showing.

I expect the second/left door skin to go on smoother, or at least it won't seem like a brand new thing anymore.








door 1.jpgdoor 2.jpgdoor 3.jpgdoor 4.jpg

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3089996
10/28/22 05:32 PM
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door stuff

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090001
10/28/22 05:44 PM
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Also prepped most of the right jamb.

I say "most of" because the dash is still in the car which prevents me from completing the backside of the A pillar.
I'm waiting until I get the left door off to pull the dash, so there will be less stuff in the way.

You can see what seems to be a rookie error, as I did epoxy a hard line into the surfacer because of the quick tape job, but
I actually don't care and it is OK, its only sanded to 220 anyway.
The hard line will disappear with another short pass of 220 blocking + the 320 and others coming after will refine it that much more.

Also decided on exterior color and did a couple sprayouts on the cut off door skin to make sure the color really is what it's supposed to be.
First basecoat I tried missed the color pretty badly, second attempt just about nailed it.

jamb1.jpgjamb2.jpgjamb 3.jpgjamb4.jpg

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090017
10/28/22 06:24 PM
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Off the subject, you were working at Chrysler/DaimlerChrysler/FCA/Stellantis?

3000 people let go?

Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090020
10/28/22 06:32 PM
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Looking good. You are really developing some good skills at rust repair. That is a crazy amount of work.

Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: AndyF] #3090025
10/28/22 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Looking good. You are really developing some good skills at rust repair. That is a crazy amount of work.

Ummmm... what ^^^ said


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wheels, tires, air filter: 1.714, 11.833 at 115.80 (DA 310 ft)

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: Brad_Haak] #3090035
10/28/22 07:02 PM
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Looking good Rich! Light at the end of the tunnel now.


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: JERICOGTX] #3090104
10/29/22 01:20 AM
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Keep at it, Rich! Nice work. It'll be done before you know it.


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3090121
10/29/22 06:39 AM
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Good to see you back at it Rich! And congrats again on the new job.


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: Transman] #3090251
10/29/22 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Transman
Off the subject, you were working at Chrysler/DaimlerChrysler/FCA/Stellantis?

3000 people let go?


Hey,

I'll PM you rather than dumping my life story out here.




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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: AndyF] #3090258
10/29/22 04:10 PM
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Thanks all, going to stay after it in the off season as much as possible.


Originally Posted by AndyF
Looking good. You are really developing some good skills at rust repair. That is a crazy amount of work.


TY.

In younger days, '80s, I remember thinking people who did that kind of work were like
old wizards or something. I never thought I would become one of those people.


Rich H.





Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090273
10/29/22 05:22 PM
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It is amazing how much you are doing. sawzall purple That takes a lot of perseverance. hammer Long live the GTX! beer


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: Hemi_Joel] #3090278
10/29/22 05:28 PM
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Awesome work!


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: markz528] #3090437
10/30/22 10:28 AM
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On the parachute mount
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On the parachute mount
Looking better and better up


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090615
10/31/22 07:38 AM
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Looks great Zippy and glad your job situation worked out!


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3090640
10/31/22 09:27 AM
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Stripped the left door.
Thankfully The left door structure is much cleaner than the right.
Only the rear lower corner needs to be cut out and repaired, other than that it is pretty solid.

door7.jpgdoor8.jpg

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090641
10/31/22 09:29 AM
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Here's the current situation on the right side.

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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: ZIPPY] #3090661
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Looks good Rich. Are you using any guide coat for blocking?


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Re: Slow Progress at Zippy Performance [Re: JERICOGTX] #3090694
10/31/22 12:14 PM
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Oh yeah, Jeff. Current favorite is this Mirka dry guide coat.

https://www.amazon.com/Mirka-9193500111-P-Dry-Guide-Coat/dp/B01GA7DVVQ


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