Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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10/26/22 02:21 PM
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JMHO, a 4 door, especially a sedan (door posts) pony car would have been a HUGE sales flop and hurt the two door sales. At that time sporty & performance were not synchronous with 4 doors. What about all those 4 door Mustangs and Camaros from back then, oh wait... Sorry, it was just a dumb idea all around.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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Personally, I don’t believe there was ever any proposal to build a 4-door E-body. If you look at John Herlitz’s clay models during 1967 & 1968, he was designing a 2-door from the start. By December of 1967, the clay model was close to the final design: https://www.johnherlitz.org/e-body_barracuda.html the last pictures appear to be actual cars. Curious if those cars exist or were crushed? Anyone know?
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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10/28/22 02:18 AM
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Talked with Mr. Walden during and just after the car's build. To say that he was committed to bringing this one to life was an understatement. "Hell-bent" is more like it. I didn't feel like I was talking with a gearhead, more like an artist. I agree, visually the car is off to me. But you have to admit that he went full-kill in bringing the car to life. WHY? Please keep in mind that he had brain cancer? It affected him. And I suppose his family or friends had no say in what he was spending hugh money on. Then he should have donated all that money to cancer research.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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Talked with Mr. Walden during and just after the car's build. To say that he was committed to bringing this one to life was an understatement. "Hell-bent" is more like it. I didn't feel like I was talking with a gearhead, more like an artist. I agree, visually the car is off to me. But you have to admit that he went full-kill in bringing the car to life. WHY? Please keep in mind that he had brain cancer? It affected him. And I suppose his family or friends had no say in what he was spending hugh money on. Then he should have donated all that money to cancer research. If you know any of the back story, it was Dave Walden's wife (a nurse from what I was told) that told Steven Juliano that he needed to be checked out for pancreatic cancer as she saw the signs in him which led to his diagnosis. I'm sure that Dave knew the end was coming, but not all cancer is treatable. Dave spent his money on whatever pleased him. What's wrong with that? Personally, he had issues with anger to put it nicely..
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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01/14/23 01:12 AM
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I was $40,000 high…it just sold for $110,000. Reports of a small earthquake measured at Dave Walden’s gravesite. I read somewhere that he had over $600.000 in the build. I don't know how that is possible.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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Personally, he had issues with anger to put it nicely.. He started a thread about the car on Yellowbullet and had a major meltdown when the mainly GM and Ford fans didn't love his creation.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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The car is hideous,I can't believe it even brought that much money.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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[align:center][/align] its got a roof line like herman munsters head EXACTLY...EXCELLENT analogy. With no rear seat passenger headroom, should have made it a Cuda Sportwagon, or better yet left it alone, fugly IMO What could be uglier.............oh a 4-door Mustang What almost was:
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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I was $40,000 high…it just sold for $110,000. Reports of a small earthquake measured at Dave Walden’s gravesite. I read somewhere that he had over $600.000 in the build. I don't know how that is possible. Tooling for custom made parts isn't cheap.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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I called it the top hat Barracuda,and Dave was pissed at me! Maybe the new owner can use it to drive the Pope around in! Maybe Worman bought it,he raved on and on about how great he thought the car was on his show! The roof isn't high enough for his head to fit in it! Lol!
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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Man, some of you guys are harsh. After reading some of the sanctimonious comments in this thread, you'd think that he was spending your money and making you do the work on it... The man had a vision and he managed to follow it through before he passed. Have some respect for that. Many of us will likely leave our families with a bunch of cars and car stuff that our families will have to deal with later... it's not uncommon. And our families will likely only get a fraction out of it from what we spent on the junk - I've seen some cases where it all just went to the scrap yard. A life's worth of collecting, all scrap metal to go into the next electric Hyundai... think about it. Regardless... on the topic of the 4-door Barracuda itself, I'm sure the idea was tossed around at the product planning/styling dept. brainstorming sessions, even if it never made it to clay. Ford and GM were considering it, why wouldn't the Chrysler Corp.? If I were brainstorming this project, I would have aimed the marketing at somebody who really wanted a sporty car like a Barracuda, and not a tall frumpy looking sedan (otherwise they could just have bought a Satellite and called it a day). The concept drawing that was floating around at the time of a 4 door hardtop with low roofline seemed like a more likely candidate, rather than where Dave ended up going. Just my opinion, but the end result looked like what might have happened if the engineers won their argument over the styling department, and upper management insisted on more headroom for back seat passengers (and perhaps better structural integrity as offered by a sedan vs a hardtop). Here's the drawing that was floating around (which I thought would more likely have been what Chrysler would have pursued): For me, it was interesting. I followed the build online and was amazed at the workmanship and attention to detail that was put into it... even if I didn't really like the final result aesthetically. It only adds to the hobby as far as I'm concerned, and I really have no time for anyone who wants to cut a guy down (especially after he's dead) for following his dream and vision, even if it's not what I would do (not that I would ever have the ability to take on a project like this, to such a high level). Just my , FWIW.
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Re: '4 door Barracuda' goes to auction
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The factory drawings that fortunately never made production. Atleast they got the roofline right.
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