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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: Brad_Haak] #3089797
10/28/22 05:47 AM
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Bleepin' exhaust system should have been done last night, but I think I got my dimensions wrong "just enough" to keep me from being able to line up the collector hookups w/ the tapered transitions to the x-pipe entries. Had the whole system on & off twice before giving up for the day. rant


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: Brad_Haak] #3089913
10/28/22 01:45 PM
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i've been thinking about using those stainless flat band clamps.
i'm not sure a mig [which is all i have] could do a good weld on a v-band clamp ? shruggy
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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: ZIPPY] #3089929
10/28/22 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Jegs house brand copper collector gaskets have always worked well for me and been reusable.

V bands are the way to go if building new, though.



I have ball collectors that work great and don't require gaskets but I've been thinking about v-bands for ease of removal/assembly.


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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: GY3] #3089935
10/28/22 02:53 PM
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Flange flatness and clamp load (clean the threadings and slightly lube them... ant-seize preferred) is all that matters mostly... for any exhaust gasket to work. I use the Fel-Pro Performance collector gaskets... they are steel cored with compressible fiber facings, along with anti-stick coatings... easy release/removal... and re-use if needed.

I'm a former gasket applications engineer from Fel-Pro.


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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: GY3] #3089991
10/28/22 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Jegs house brand copper collector gaskets have always worked well for me and been reusable.

V bands are the way to go if building new, though.



I have ball collectors that work great and don't require gaskets but I've been thinking about v-bands for ease of removal/assembly.


Yeah. One bolt rather than 3! We will see how it goes when mockups of the Hemi start, but if the low budget super comps I bought for mine
require significant rework I'm definitely not above chopping the collector ring off and starting over with V band.


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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: ZIPPY] #3090022
10/28/22 07:43 PM
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Exhaust comment(s)
- here are the Brad-Fab collector 45-degree elbow hookups next to the NOT 45-degree elbow TTI parts
- had to assemble the system w/ the stock pieces and will check w/ TTI about getting replacement pipes on which to perform the same mod
- installed the "dead soft" aluminum gaskets... noticed there's a slight non-flat surface on one of the collector hookups and I could see light between the gasket and the mating surfaces; I "shaved" that corner of the gasket to enable the surfaces to mate, but...

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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: moparx] #3090147
10/29/22 10:18 AM
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The ones on my Barracuda that I have to make my midpipe removable were done by a muffler shop mig, I have one on my conquest exhaust that a friend of mine did with my mig welder. I use my welder occasionally but I really have it so my friends can weld my stuff at my house lol.


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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: Bad340fish] #3090217
10/29/22 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
The ones on my Barracuda that I have to make my midpipe removable were done by a muffler shop mig, I have one on my conquest exhaust that a friend of mine did with my mig welder. I use my welder occasionally but I really have it so my friends can weld my stuff at my house lol.



thanks for the reply. i haven't had a V-band in my hand to examine, so i'm open to suggestions.
as i have all the necessary parts here, i was going to use up what i already have. however, the parts i have are mild steel, so i was going to have the system coated after i got it together.
if i was starting from scratch, i would buy stainless for all the more it is in cost over mild steel, plus the cost of having it coated makes the stainless choice a no-brainer.
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Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: moparx] #3090393
10/30/22 08:33 AM
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Slip on and V band. If you're running big bore ex system on a lowered car and need to keep it tight to the floorpan, there are some places under the car which can be a bit tight so a slip on in that area. V band clamps are used where I have the room. I can go from a 4 silencer x pipe system, to open headers and any other mix 'n match combo. But I generally race with X pipe, bullet mufflers and pre axle turn downs since we have a 120db limit at the track.


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: What's your preferred brand or style of collector gaskets? [Re: Brad_Haak] #3091079
11/02/22 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad_Haak

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- had to assemble the system w/ the stock pieces and will check w/ TTI about getting replacement pipes on which to perform the same mod
...

Talked to TTI yesterday. They don't normally sell the "slip connectors" separately from the x-pipe kits. However, "Mike" was helpful enough to go check in the shop for spares. He found there were some getting ready for the bender and opted to pull a finished set from a kit and will replace them w/ the parts in the process of being made.

He also confirmed the left and right parts are different, so my attempt to use two identical 45-degree elbow wasn't gonna work, since I wasn't prepared to do additional sawzall and weld


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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