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installing k member, motor and trans at once #3088585
10/23/22 04:30 PM
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When my 440 took a crap we took it to my buddies shop and dropped k member and all out the bottom on his lift. The reason we did it this way is because i suffered a bad back injury that pretty left my right leg in bad shape so i was in no condition to lay on the ground or bend over the fenders. Well we waited on parts and ran out of time and he packed up shop and moved out of state. Now im left to try to get this all back together in my garage. The k member still has all the suspension on it. Im not sure the best way to go about it. Should i get the k member back in then go down through the top like ive always done? Or do i put it all together and shove it all under the car at once? im not crazy about the idea of my front end being 5 feet in the air on top of buying the brackets that attatch to the bumper bracket mounts to lift it up. What have you guys done? Which way is the way to go? Any input would be appreciated! Thanks...Joe


66 Dodge Coronet 500 440w/727 11:10 30 over 440 w/292 purple shaft,stock Eddy heads,3:23,full exhaust Best ET. 12.38 @110 in street trim
Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088590
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I've seen guys take some 4 inch square channel iron and put 6 inch diameter wheels on the bottom and weld L brackets on top of them to bolt to the front sub frame in the bumper mounting holes to move the cars around to get them over the motor and trannies scope wrench up
God luck, another option is to use a cherry picker to pickup the front of the car and move it around with the picker to get it over the motor and tranny work scope


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: Cab_Burge] #3088597
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we already have wheels under the front to roll it around. . and yeah the cherry picker deal was how we were going to lift it up. but man that seems sketchy


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088599
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Photo of 528 engine and 833 transmission going into '71 charger. There are skates on the rear wheels for fine tuning position. I've witnessed this done many times and no problems. One of my favorite pics of the car. My wife helped me! Another set of eyes really helps

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088603
10/23/22 05:27 PM
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I did it a few years back.

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: 1fastrunner] #3088609
10/23/22 05:52 PM
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After doing my sport satellite . . . and seeing how you already have it all out . . .mount everything on k member and lower car onto it . . .sooo much easier ! I built the cradle so I could roll car around, and then turn it 90 degrees and rebolt it onto car and have it sticking out front to pick up with the engine hoist . . .

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088611
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The easiest way to do it, just lower the car down onto the K frame. My buddy does it this way by himself all the time. Once you have a few parts put together, like a bracket to bolt to the front frame and a cart or something to put the K frame on you will never do it from the top again.

Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: Big-Bo-Hemoth] #3088615
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see the idea of this looks totally sketchy to me. How long did it take you?


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: 1fastrunner] #3088616
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What is that set up you have your cherry picker attached to?


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: Droop69] #3088617
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thats what everyone keeps telling me! Thanks for the advice!


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088619
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I got the cart and bracket from US Car Tool many years ago. Just sold them on Facebook Marketplace a few months ago.

Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088620
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Where in Illinois are you? I have everything to do this handy if your are close enough to me. 62812


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088622
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Job probably took no longer than 1 hour, but I am slow and deliberate.

Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: DaveRS23] #3088626
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i am in northwest illinois......rock falls ....damn says 5 hours and 12 minutes away! well crap


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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088628
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There are various ways to do this but it all depends on what tools you have and how high of space you have to work with. I have a bridge crane in my shop so I pick up the car and lower it over the engine. Then I pull the engine up into the car and then I lift the K frame into place. If I had other tools I would do it a different way. For instance I've done the same thing with a two post lift but you have to do it a little differently. If you have a cherry picker you have to do it slightly differently.

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: AndyF] #3088631
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Its only sketchy if you weld like this. This is pathetic dude.

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: bigblk66_coronet] #3088636
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On 3 different cars I have used the same tools...

I have a piece of 2x2 box tubing that sets under the frame rails just below where the radiator bolts in...

It has a chain attached that runs up to my cherry picker...

I have never removed grills...bumpers...hood or anything to change engines...just the radiator...

The dolly I use sets on the oil pan rail of the engine...I set the engine down on the dolly with the dolly close to the rear of the engine...

Then I put the transmission...starter...headers...trans mount and everything else on...

I put the K frame and steering box on and then install the lower control arms and strut rods...

Once everything I want is bolted on I lift the car up and wheel the dolly into place...

I keep my back tires on the ground because the dolly I use is short but some others do lift the back tires...

Lower the car down slowly until the transmission crossmember will bolt in with the 4 bolts...

I leave the transmission mount loose on the trans and on the crossmember until after I have installed the 4 bolts for the K frame...

Lower the car on down until the 4 K frame bolts can be installed...

Once they're tight I raise the car back up and put it on jack stands to finish everything underneath...

The whole process from the time you lift the car until everything is setting on the stands is about a half an hour...

The below pics are an install on Dads 72 Duster...

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Pics from the install on my 69 Dart...

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Re: installing k member, motor and trans at once [Re: skicker] #3088644
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Wow ! Thanks thats some great info! I feel alot better about it now!


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So the 2x2 piece of tubing under the frame rail? Did it scratch up the upper rafiator support or does it clear everything ok? i like that idea and its nice and cheap


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