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An old cylinder head, but a dandy! #3083823
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I went to Rock Falls Raceway last Friday, and spotted a duster , mini tubbed, caged , parachute, full interior. Then watched it rip off an 8.91 at 150 mph. I talked to the owner, and he asked if I knew what heads he had. I figured stage 6, and was right! Stage 6 Chapman ported, 540 cubic inch low deck aluminum block, single dominater on gasoline, 3340 lbs race weight. With an 8/10 mph 3/4 head wind and DA of about 2000 I was thoroughly impressed!
My 2019 mustang gt 10 auto didn't t fair as well, got sideways at 200 to 300 feet out ( street tires, e85) and had to lift! Best I could muster was a wheel spinning 12.23, 2.04 60 ft, at 118.6 mph. I quit trying after the 12.23 pass, just too squirrelly and didn't want to crash the car.

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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3083832
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Any picture of the car?


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: JERICOGTX] #3083853
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Sorry, no.


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3083878
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That was a decent head for the time for sure. For that weight thats close to 850-75HP...Alot for that head but doable..


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: Al_Alguire] #3083889
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
That was a decent head for the time for sure. For that weight thats close to 850-75HP...Alot for that head but doable..

Al, that corolates to R&Rs dyno, where he said it made over 900. Figure the loss of hp with wind and DA, those heads are delivering. Also I recall he was leaving at 2500? Radials. So there is a bit more in it.

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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3083898
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If it was green , it was Josh with his demon. lives in Eau Claire area, great guy. fast car, he's stood it on the bumper a few times also.

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3083908
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Lot of power for those heads, must have the correct cam and compression and everything else is sorted out nicely.

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: AndyF] #3083909
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Didn't Dulcich use these heads for an engine masters deal years ago?

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: John Burdine] #3083952
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Wonder if they were originals “ported by Chapman”, or the “Chapman Stage VI”? The latter were an expensive set of heads!

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: J_BODY] #3083954
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Still gots my chapman stage 6s I got from John Ah-ah laugh

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: old_racer] #3083962
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Originally Posted by old_racer
If it was green , it was Josh with his demon. lives in Eau Claire area, great guy. fast car, he's stood it on the bumper a few times also.
yes. Josh, green duster.


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3083966
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This is the car:

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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: John Burdine] #3083979
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Originally Posted by 493_john
Didn't Dulcich use these heads for an engine masters deal years ago?


Yes , even though Parkhurst told us they were not legal because I could not call and order a set on the day the contest started .


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: CokeBottleKid] #3083980
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Originally Posted by CokeBottleKid
Still gots my chapman stage 6s I got from John Ah-ah laugh


I couldn't remember who I sold them to , are you using them yet ?


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by CokeBottleKid
Still gots my chapman stage 6s I got from John Ah-ah laugh


I couldn't remember who I sold them to , are you using them yet ?

I still got pics from when you showed them to me at Carlisle, but I opted not to purchase them. Does that count for anything? laugh2


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: JERICOGTX] #3084005
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Nice looking car, has a very aggressive look about it. Not surprised it runs hard.

Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: AndyF] #3084054
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That's a bad ride! Very nice looking and runs really strong! Looks like it has the longer chevy length leaf springs under it judging by the length of the Cal-Trac bar.
Those heads can obviously make power, but they always seemed overpriced and required so much work to be useable.


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3084070
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
That's a bad ride! Very nice looking and runs really strong! Looks like it has the longer chevy length leaf springs under it judging by the length of the Cal-Trac bar.
Those heads can obviously make power, but they always seemed overpriced and required so much work to be useable.

I thought Chapman made them race ready?


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Originally Posted by J_BODY
Wonder if they were originals “ported by Chapman”, or the “Chapman Stage VI”? The latter were an expensive set of heads!

Stage 6


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Re: An old cylinder head, but a dandy! [Re: gregsdart] #3084074
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Originally Posted by gregsdart
Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
That's a bad ride! Very nice looking and runs really strong! Looks like it has the longer chevy length leaf springs under it judging by the length of the Cal-Trac bar.
Those heads can obviously make power, but they always seemed overpriced and required so much work to be useable.

I thought Chapman made them race ready?

I was referring to the Stage VI heads from MP. They were garbage as delivered from MP. For the amount of money you'd have in them to make a decent head, you'd have been better off to start w/ something from Indy.
The Chapman Stage VI heads were supposed to be good to go, but were really expensive from what I remember. Expensive enough that I'd rather go the B1 route and have more power potential.


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'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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