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Dan,

as always, you are a wealth of knowledge when it comes down to the numbers…and willing to share…THANK YOU!

So to „your“ cars in order you mentioned them:

RL21H67275421 – is #14 in my list and was running as „unknown6 (FBBO basket-case)“ until you supplied us now with the VIN#. So one more car tied to a VIN – great!

Are you sure about the ext. Color „dark red metallic“ (QQ1)?

Because after the ebay-auction of late 2011/early 2012 you mentioned, this car was offered in 2019 on FBBO.com and seller stated it was „red on red“.

So I assumed he meant „bright red“ (PP1), cause if it was „metallic red“ a seller would usually mention the „metallic“, because it is more upscale and might help the sale.

But of course, „red“ can be any red: light, bright, dark, monotone, metallic.

Seller @FBBO was member „Ronald Ford“, who was not seen for more than some days after he posted his ad. He also claimed this car was a „carpet delete“.


@RL21H67265820 – that one is new to me, awesome! Added it to the list (#36)


@RL21H61272294 – Yes, correct, already on my list (#25), but thanks for confirmation! Got a pic of the FT?


@RL21H61278214 („FEVER“) – also on my list already (#30 „unknown19“), but since quite recently and as unidentified. So thanks to your now provided VIN# we have one further car identified


@RL21H61229076 (STAHL-car) – thanks for supplying a VIN# also for the STAHL-car (#10 in my list)!!!

Update on the statistics:

- we´re up plus 5 car`s to now 36 of the 136 cars (a good 1/4)
- 1 new car came by moparts-member "IROC78" (#32),
- 1 other new car by moparts-member "6bblgt" (#36)
- 3 more new cars found be me (#`s 33, 34 & 35).
- 15 cars now identified by VIN# (plus 3 thanks to "6bblgt") / 21 cars VIN# unknown
- updated list attached to my intitial posting #1
- I have good reason to hope for VIN#`s for at least one more car: Mr. Bob Mazzolini is willing to support my quest and promised to look up his VIN# (car #19). I approached moparts-member "sixpacksteve" with the same request for "his" car (#35).

So let`s start to hunt down the remaining "TOP 100" ;-)

Here are pics of the “new” cars #33 “CANDY MAN” of Jim OWENS & #34 “OX-CART” of Trevor TURNER.

Maybe this helps to get their VIN# at least.

@#33 “CANDY-MAN”: cannot clearly read the class on the windscreen, but it seems like an “automatic”-class (x/xA). Any thoughts on that?

@#34 “OX-CART”: pic taken 1981 at Calgary International Raceway (CIR) in CANADA.

In the B bodies for sale section. Not sure if its on the list yet?

Yes, #5 in the list. But thanks anyway.

Thanks @IROC78, that is some good additional info! Especially because it was in such a hefty accident, the VIN# would be good to know: if the car (or the VIN#) is still arround, a buyer can check if the seller states correctly that this was an "in-accident-car" or if the VIN# was transfered to another hull ("re-body").

BTW: 100k mls for a HEMI-car is something...mostly these when on the market are claimed all to have under-100k-mls-actual, most even with very rediculously low mileages. Also proofs, that the HEMI is a solid piece of engeneering: if driven/maintained correctly, it holds up!

I want it

BTW: 100k mls for a HEMI-car is something...mostly these when on the market are claimed all to have under-100k-mls-actual, most even with very rediculously low mileages. Also proofs, that the HEMI is a solid piece of engeneering: if driven/maintained correctly, it holds up!

Here’s my friends nice over 100,000 mile car, was a one owner driven since new.

@cudaman1969: your friend’s car looks very nice! Always good when a car is driven frequently...what stops, that rusts!

@IROC78: if the photos are photos and not slides, you don’t need a scanner...just photograph each with your smartphone or tablet ;-)

I guess I am not alone if I say I’m really curious for seeing photos from your Dad’s car back in the day!

Don’t want to clog this post but I’ll clarify, my friend is second owner, the first used it as the family car for all the miles. Now it’s driven occasionally after complete restoration. It’s sweet.

Well I don't have a smartphone or tablet (I know) , but I was able to have a friend help me. These are the only two photos I have of my dad's car from back in the day. I'm really curious as to what he's doing sitting in the car while it's up on the jack, but who knows. I wish there was a way to track down the VIN through old insurance documents, the accident report with the Elmhurst IL police department, or old DMV records etc. The image isn't high enough quality to zoom in and get the partial front plate number either. He did tell me that he pulled the Hemi emblems off the fenders right away. I can still see something at the front of the fender although I'm not sure whether or not that is a flaw in the picture or something else he put on there in place of the emblems.

Thanks @IROC78 for this awesome trip back in time!!! Nothing beats original material from back in the day.

My thoughts::
- are these plastic covers for additional protection on the backrest of frontbench?

- interesting wheel-combo: stylish chrome one ins front, standard steelies in rear, but BOTH slim! The nice 62 behind the 66 wears the exact same combo! Or was your Dad at moment of photo just changing the 4 chrome wheels from the older to the newer car?

- interesting lifting-device, never seen that before!

- nice on-dash tach :-)))

- pic one shows how “bare” these Belvedere I’s came, even no chrome arround side-windows, love it!

- in contrast to that, I always wonder why Ma-Mopar put on the long beltline chrome-trim? Would have looked better/cleaner without and less holes in the sheetmetal (a.k.a. rust-traps) too. They could have just used that short “Bevedere I”-portion. They dropped that trim on the 67, but that has a lower rocker trim.
- cool your Dad removed the “Hemi” badges...more fun with/surprise to the general public on the road.

- as you mention the small enblem on front of front-fender, I think that is the “Commando V8” enblem. The models with the other V8’s (no-HEMI’s) came with that enblem. So I conclude your fathers car was an early car, that did not have the “426 HEMI”-enbleme (would be an lower rear of front fender, just below the “Belvedere I”-enblem). But instead your fahters car was a car built prior 01/01/1966 and thus only having a “HP2”-enbelem at FRONT of frontfenders, just where on your Das car know is the small red&chrom “Commando V8”-enblem. So your father substituted the “HP2”-callout and substituted it with the “Commando V8”-enblem. Very discrete!

So was your Dad’s car an early built car? When ordered, when delivered?


- if you have friends or family with law enforcement, DMV or insurance, you might be able too still track licence-plate-# and VIN#.

AND THE 62 SAVOY BEHIND IT! Two nice cars, wow. I was wondering on the seats too plus no seat belt plastic holders

Thank you for helping clear up the emblem mystery! I am going to show these pictures to my dad and see if it jogs any memories. He doesn't recall when he ordered or took delivery of the car. He was either 18 or19 when he took delivery of it (depending on the date) so I guess I will cut him some slack for not remembering all these years later. It's odd how our memory works though as he could tell me the exact street he was on when the odometer rolled over too 100K and he backed up so he could see it turn over again. He did tell me that at the time he didn't have the money to buy all four mag wheels at once so that's why only the fronts were on it. He doesn't recall why the plastic was on the back portion of the front seat other than to possibly protect it but it seems to me the lower portion of the seat would be more in need of protection than the upper.

I am on agreement with you on the beltline molding. I have a 66 Coronet Deluxe and it has similar beltline molding, but my 67 Belvedere II has no side molding other than on the rocker and I definitely prefer that look. My Coronet is just as bare bones as my dad's car was with no trim around the 1/4 window either.

The Savoy was my dad's friends car. Thank you cudaman for identifying it by year as my dad couldn't recall the specifics on that car other than that it was a 6cyl column shift that his friend converted to a floor shift. Thank you also for sharing the photo of your friends 100K mile hemi car as it is absolutely beautiful!

Tobias, do you happen to have a 66 Belvedere I hemi car yourself or did you just undertake the task of trying to document all of the ones that were built?

So the only problem I see with participating in this thread is that I see myself becoming obsessed with finding a 66 Belvedere I to build into a replica of his car.

Thank you again for shedding some light on a few unknowns regarding this car I really do appreciate it.

You’re welcome IROC. I know why your dad is sitting in the car with front end jacked up.. getting photos of the launch doing a wheel stand LOL, what I would do too! Your dad is a year or two older than me, cool, the great generation!

That was his exact reaction when I asked him what he was doing! I don't remember everything I was doing myself at age 18-19 but I'm sure a staged "wheelie" photo wouldn't have been out of the question. I definitely have a ton of respect for all of you in that great generation.

Looking at the picture of the emblem and the blue auction car, I think they may be HP2 emblems. They could be the Commando V8 emblems though, as I see a hint of red in the picture.

It's tough to tell, but I agree and also see a hint of red. However, having said that the emblem in the picture looks closer in size to the HP2 emblem. I did just locate another picture of the car though and will try to scan and post it tomorrow so we may have a bit more evidence to go by!

Interesting note on the HP2 emblem. Why would Chrysler use it up to Jan 1st then go with the 426 emblem the rest of year, then in 67 come back with the HP2 emblem then over to the 426 again?