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Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: CUDASCOTT] #3081013
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“That little hand parking brake was not going to do anything, and I never saw it stop it when I was a kid so I knew not to count on it when I got my Road Runner in 1969.”

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. Believe me it works just fine

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Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: cudaman1969] #3081053
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
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he's (maybe she's. or "it's") the same on every forum they post on. my post was to illustrate the fact, for the rest of the people in the thread, the facts on the emergency brake, as posted by an insurance company.


Yes, gloss right over the fact that your insurance company quote, lol, contains a glaring and factually incorrect claim that it reduces engine wear in the very first paragraph. You uncritically accept it because it supports your equally incorrect opinion of how the parking brake system functions.


And you obviously have no clue how an emergency system works.


You are right, because they do not have one.

You ever wonder why the feds mandated a dual circuit hydraulic braking system?

Because the parking brake couldn't do the job. Half the hydraulic system still worked better than the parking brake.

Ever wonder why the owner's manual tells you to apply the service brakes before setting the parking brake? Because the parking brake cannot fully set the rear brakes all on it's own.

Just because you can hammer in a nail with Vice Grips doesn't make it a hammer.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
“That little hand parking brake was not going to do anything, and I never saw it stop it when I was a kid so I knew not to count on it when I got my Road Runner in 1969.”

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. Believe me it works just fine


Bet you use compression fittings on brake lines too.

Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: Sniper] #3081057
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The one thing I remember from High School is a teacher who explained to us that if you ever need to use the parking brake in an emergency to be sure to pull the handle or hold the button in so it doesn't lock. Unless you want to do a bootlegger's turn, then lock 'er up.


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Sniper why are you arguing over the name. When brakes were single circuit it was considered an emergency brake. When brakes went to dual circuit it became a parking brake. Single circuit brakes were around for a long time and the emergency brakes saved as lot of people from crashing.

Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: stumpy] #3081122
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Right, it's really not a big deal on the name. Brakes changed over the years. I do know from my immature teen years the parking/emergency brake would definitely stop the car by locking the rear wheels laugh Friends and I would have a little fun when our tires were getting old anyway.


Facts are stubborn things.
Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: Sniper] #3081177
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Golden-Arm




he's (maybe she's. or "it's") the same on every forum they post on. my post was to illustrate the fact, for the rest of the people in the thread, the facts on the emergency brake, as posted by an insurance company.


Yes, gloss right over the fact that your insurance company quote, lol, contains a glaring and factually incorrect claim that it reduces engine wear in the very first paragraph. You uncritically accept it because it supports your equally incorrect opinion of how the parking brake system functions.


And you obviously have no clue how an emergency system works.


You are right, because they do not have one.

You ever wonder why the feds mandated a dual circuit hydraulic braking system?

Because the parking brake couldn't do the job. Half the hydraulic system still worked better than the parking brake.

Ever wonder why the owner's manual tells you to apply the service brakes before setting the parking brake? Because the parking brake cannot fully set the rear brakes all on it's own.

Just because you can hammer in a nail with Vice Grips doesn't make it a hammer.


Like I said you have no clue, I’ve never had a problem locking up the back brakes with an emergency brake and stopping the vehicle, just takes a man to do it, no wimps.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
Sniper why are you arguing over the name. When brakes were single circuit it was considered an emergency brake. When brakes went to dual circuit it became a parking brake. Single circuit brakes were around for a long time and the emergency brakes saved as lot of people from crashing.

And before that it was a parking brake as most cars were stick shift and the early automatics didn't have a park feature, so there is that. People called them emergency brakes, but that was never their intended purpose. Show us in an owners manual or FSM where it is ever called anything other than a parking brake. Hell on our 2019 Ram you can't even apply that parking brake while the truck is in motion.


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Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: Guitar Jones] #3081295
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Funny thing.
The laws in IL require a modified or specially built vehicle to have functioning "Emergency brakes." Guess its a good thing that law isn't enforced very much. After that 1st inspection, they forget about it.

I've used the "hand" brake to stop a vehicle, more then once, after the regular brakes have failed. It wasn't fun, or a very fast stop, but it did work. One time was with a modern dual reservoir master cylinder. When a brake line, or brake hose fails, it will still empty the master cylinder with a couple pumps of the pedal. Many of the current plastic brake reservoirs do not have a separation between the two chambers, except possibly a small reserved area that can still empty. .

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I have a one man, double pontoon white water inflatable boat,
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“Fred Flintstone braking”
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Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: cudaman1969] #3081351
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969



Like I said you have no clue, I’ve never had a problem locking up the back brakes with an emergency brake and stopping the vehicle, just takes a man to do it, no wimps.


You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to crap like that for a response.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by cudaman1969



Like I said you have no clue, I’ve never had a problem locking up the back brakes with an emergency brake and stopping the vehicle, just takes a man to do it, no wimps.


You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to crap like that for a response.


No I’ve never lost an argument, I go to many sources for the right info first. I’ve asked at least 5 car repair shops (at least 20 or more years in business), everyone said EMERGENCY brake, I grew up in 50s and 60s and worked at the Dodge repair shop it was referred to as an emergency brake and was referred from 1910 to my time as an emergency brake, and don’t give a rats ass about what any ‘book’ called it. It was called ‘parking brake’ for liability issues only. Can you understand why? How do I know this? I Do have some lawyers in the family. Worse than arguing with a women on here sometime, watch CNN much?

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Re: Parking brake won't hold, what am I missing? [Re: Bob Stinson] #3081466
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Originally Posted by Bob Stinson
The one thing I remember from High School is a teacher who explained to us that if you ever need to use the parking brake in an emergency to be sure to pull the handle or hold the button in so it doesn't lock. Unless you want to do a bootlegger's turn, then lock 'er up.


So True: 1 hand on wheel, other pulling brake release, left foot pumping emerg pedal.
Had to do that few times over the years.
It sure beats having to shift into Park.

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For 16 years I lived out of town on a narrow gravel road. I bought a lot of beaters and parted them out and junked the remains. I can't count how many times I drove a vehicle up and down that road to check the condition of a trans or rear axle that only had a functioning E brake (or whatever you want to call it).

Those old Mopars with the E brake drum on the back end of the trans had great E brakes!

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by cudaman1969



Like I said you have no clue, I’ve never had a problem locking up the back brakes with an emergency brake and stopping the vehicle, just takes a man to do it, no wimps.


You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to crap like that for a response.


No I’ve never lost an argument, I go to many sources for the right info first. I’ve asked at least 5 car repair shops (at least 20 or more years in business), everyone said EMERGENCY brake, I grew up in 50s and 60s and worked at the Dodge repair shop it was referred to as an emergency brake and was referred from 1910 to my time as an emergency brake, and don’t give a rats ass about what any ‘book’ called it. It was called ‘parking brake’ for liability issues only. Can you understand why? How do I know this? I Do have some lawyers in the family. Worse than arguing with a women on here sometime, watch CNN much?


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