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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: carnut68] #3080240
09/24/22 11:38 AM
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I stick with your Sonata or Mr. P has a good suggestion. A newer Dart! Lots of safety features, inexpensive, she'll probably be happy with that and maybe take better care.


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: larrymopar360] #3080277
09/24/22 02:29 PM
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No Hondas Toyotas or Hyundai's for me even if for free.
My wife drives a Durango that's about a month from turning 300k, if need be it'll be getting another 360 magnum just like what's in there now unless it suddenly rots into the ground before that point.

Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: volaredon] #3080279
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Originally Posted by volaredon
No Hondas Toyotas or Hyundai's for me even if for free.
My wife drives a Durango that's about a month from turning 300k, if need be it'll be getting another 360 magnum just like what's in there now unless it suddenly rots into the ground before that point.
I understand that sentiment and I share it, but he already has a Sonata.


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3080316
09/24/22 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
2.4 Auto darts with under 100k miles are easy in the 8-9k area.

Some 2.4-s have oil burning issues but not all. the 2.0s are good also, the 1.6 turbo and manual are all junk by 100k.
Some well taken care of 2.4-s (auto) are now past 300k miles.




How come on the turbo cars? Rode hard approach for most of them? Or is it a bad design, like to lose head gaskets type stuff?

Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: Andrewh] #3080318
09/24/22 05:53 PM
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I would also consider a "grandparents" type car line like a 1998 - 2004 Oldsmobile, Buick and the Mercury and Lincoln like you say.

Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: A12] #3080323
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Originally Posted by A12
I would also consider a "grandparents" type car line like a 1998 - 2004 Oldsmobile, Buick and the Mercury and Lincoln like you say.
That ain't what the grandparents on this forum drive laugh


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: larrymopar360] #3080326
09/24/22 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
Originally Posted by A12
I would also consider a "grandparents" type car line like a 1998 - 2004 Oldsmobile, Buick and the Mercury and Lincoln like you say.
That ain't what the grandparents on this forum drive laugh


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: crackedback] #3080334
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A bit of both, beat and lots of flaws. The manual trans and the dual clutch autos? are full of problems and puke by 100,000 and most are a 3-4k fix. However id love to find a 20k mile one to mod a bit but there just are not any around. Mods are so limited to the 2.4 mostly by the PCM and they have the muilti air brick but I cheated with one and offset ground the 2.4 crank and added a bit of compression for my altitude and it adapted well. Then the next hurdle is the six speed auto trans, great for oem power but near its limit as is. Its a Korean trans used by a few other import cars of the time.

But left untouched they are a great setup and although slow they are fun to drive... the tq of the 2.4 makes them feel faster then they are.


Originally Posted by crackedback
Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
2.4 Auto darts with under 100k miles are easy in the 8-9k area.

Some 2.4-s have oil burning issues but not all. the 2.0s are good also, the 1.6 turbo and manual are all junk by 100k.
Some well taken care of 2.4-s (auto) are now past 300k miles.




How come on the turbo cars? Rode hard approach for most of them? Or is it a bad design, like to lose head gaskets type stuff?


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: larrymopar360] #3080355
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My son inherited his grandfather's '98 Olds Intrigue when grandpop passed away frown . Grandmom didn't drive so my son got it. Low miles, always serviced and regular oil changes, tune ups and lubed. When he got his driver's license we put a nice Alpine audio system with Bluetooth and some Kicker speakers, and he drives it 50 miles a day, five days a week back and forth to work, 3.8 V6 with plenty of power and 25 MPG on regular gas, ABS, traction control and air bags. "Grandparents" car, not hot rodded or abused, well maintained and garage kept by non-smokers. smile

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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: A12] #3080456
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I looked for some of the older buicks, but they aren't really out there anymore for cheap.
the dart's are still in the 12 to 14k range here apparently.
only 2 under 10k were a salvage and the turbo.

I saw that coparts lets you advertise un wrecked cars, and browsed a few there.
some interesting cars under 10k there.
lexus ls430, also a 20 year old car, was kind of interesting.
some hail damaged vehicles, under 10k that also might be good too.

noticed a few cop cars, but realized the back seats were terrible. which could be good or bad, lol. Since they aren't allowed passengers or 1 person only till they turn 18.

pickups are not my thing and are apparently expensive to insure for a teenager.

Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3080686
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
A bit of both, beat and lots of flaws. The manual trans and the dual clutch autos? are full of problems and puke by 100,000 and most are a 3-4k fix. However id love to find a 20k mile one to mod a bit but there just are not any around. Mods are so limited to the 2.4 mostly by the PCM and they have the muilti air brick but I cheated with one and offset ground the 2.4 crank and added a bit of compression for my altitude and it adapted well. Then the next hurdle is the six speed auto trans, great for oem power but near its limit as is. Its a Korean trans used by a few other import cars of the time.

But left untouched they are a great setup and although slow they are fun to drive... the tq of the 2.4 makes them feel faster then they are.


Anything really bad with a manual trans car?

TIA for the info.

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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: crackedback] #3082196
10/01/22 12:00 PM
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anyone for a minivan ?
my 99 short wheelbase caravan cost me $400 with a bad transaxle. the transaxle cost me $100 [with a 2001 caravan wrapped around it]
both had 140k on their clocks. after transaxle swap, i added new wheel bearings and brakes on all four wheels, plus another couple of trinkety things, and so far, it has been almost 40k of super reliable miles.
gas mileage is around 26, city or interstate, doesn't seem to matter.
plus, it will haul almost anything a pickup will ! boogie
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: moparx] #3087533
10/19/22 04:46 PM
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I've daily driven a 99 300M for the past 5 years now. It has never let me down. Other than routine maintenance a new rad a few years ago, it has been trouble free. It's a tank in the snow too, but that doesn't sound like a huge issue for you. up


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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed? [Re: JD340] #3087542
10/19/22 05:27 PM
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Put in your budget on a classified site and search off that, you'd be surprised at some of the deals that can be had. I did a $3000 search not long ago and was shocked at what was available

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