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Re: Keystones manager just posted this [Re: moparacer] #3076617
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Looks like both the North Carolina tracks I race at joined, and Maryland International too.

Maryland International Raceway in Maryland,
Farmington Dragway and Piedmont Dragway in North Carolina.

I wonder what is going to happen with competition licenses? i.e. will WDRA have different classes (ET license A,B,C,D,E), will they require paying for a new license,
And the big if

If I let my IHRA class license expire, and 3 years later WDRA falls apart, will I have to retake the track tests to get my IHRA license back?
I just did my track tests (timeslips, signatures) for my upgrade to Class C (5.50 1/8 mile, 8.00 1/4 mile) and got a new IHRA card.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
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So I wander if Keystone and Beaver Springs will still be in the SBRA?

That is kind of like the same thing on a smaller scale but its been a lot of fun over the years.


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I have yet to see ANYTHING about why any track should go to this group? What advantages are there? What rule changes are there? Most tracks are part of a sanctioning body for one purpose only, and that is so they can get Insurance on the property.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
I have yet to see ANYTHING about why any track should go to this group? What advantages are there? What rule changes are there? Most tracks are part of a sanctioning body for one purpose only, and that is so they can get Insurance on the property.


Insurance is the part many racers don't consider......

I have kept my NHRA membership up all these years just for the excess medical they have in the event of an accident.


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Saw a guy on FB claiming their goal is to get more women involved in bracket racing........


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
I have yet to see ANYTHING about why any track should go to this group? What advantages are there? What rule changes are there? Most tracks are part of a sanctioning body for one purpose only, and that is so they can get Insurance on the property.


and costs for the track come into factor. That’s what I’d always heard with TVD going from “N” to “I” many years ago.

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Originally Posted by moparacer
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
I have yet to see ANYTHING about why any track should go to this group? What advantages are there? What rule changes are there? Most tracks are part of a sanctioning body for one purpose only, and that is so they can get Insurance on the property.


Insurance is the part many racers don't consider......

I have kept my NHRA membership up all these years just for the excess medical they have in the event of an accident.


So many people don't even know about it.

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A short update from keystone

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Keystone Raceway Park 3 hours ago Keystone Raceway ParkWDRA is on the move! In one week, more than 30 tracks have signed on as members. That makes a big statement! Keystone Raceway, along with the other tracks, have made the decision to make the move for a number of reasons. After looking over the pros and cons, here are a few things that I liked personally:

First thing was for our customers, what changes would there be and benefits.

Answer: There would be no change in 2023 for our racers. No extra expenses to them for Keystone Raceway making the switch – current licenses and memberships to either HRA will be honored.

Knowing who the people involved are, and a sanctioning body with board members who understand racing on the local track level leading the way for the start of the new organization is very key. I know all of them, and a number of them on a personal friendship level. I know and respect them and how they operate, and the years of service they’ve devoted to our sport. These people are very reputable owners/promoters. With all of that, I feel very confident with programs and other things that could be brought to WDRA that will be beneficial for all of our local grass roots racers over the country. They are already working on other things to help race tracks as well. Potentially having discount programs in place for supplies and other things tracks use that could help save a track some money, will help everyone. These factors are some of the main reasons along with others that Keystone Raceway Park has made the choice of WDRA


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Re: Keystones manager just posted this [Re: pittsburghracer] #3076874
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weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

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Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
NBRA - National Bracket Racing Assoc shruggy


There used to be the CBRA(Chamionship Bracket Racers Association)had a pretty cool program and paid pretty well back n the dark ages of yesteryear. But like so many others fell to the wayside.


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Re: Keystones manager just posted this [Re: 440Jim] #3077079
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I have said for many years (decades), that bracket racing is not very interesting for most spectators, but is very exciting for racers.

I totally agree but even worse for spectators is throttle stop index racing. Just try explaining to casual spectators what is happening. Lol it's even better listening to them telling each other that there is too much traction and all the cars are bogging. runaway


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WDRA QUARTER-MILLION DOLLAR SPORTSMAN DRAG RACING SERIES

Springfield, IL – Today the World Drag Racing Alliance (WDRA) announced the creation of the quarter-million dollar Sportsman Drag Racing Series for bracket racers competing at WDRA member tracks in 2023.

WDRA member tracks will contest the Sportsman Drag Racing Series during local points races in 2023 and each member track will crown track champions in eligible classes. Each eligible track champion will advance to the Sportsman Drag Racing Series World Championships in October and compete for their share of the $200,000 in payout plus bonus prizes. This free-entry race stands as the unparalleled best value in bracket racing. The Sportsman Drag Racing Series World Championships will also feature test & tune, gamblers races and a racer party.

“I want to make sure that all of the bracket racers and track owners know that the WDRA is kicking off the list of programs we will be offering with this Sportsman Drag Racing Series announcement and this program is not dependent on signing any certain number of tracks or securing a sponsor to partner with us” said WDRA’s Don Scott. “Everything is already in place for WDRA to operate this program.”

Under the umbrella of the Sportsman Drag Racing Series, the WDRA will also operate the WDRA Bracket Finals events at the end of the 2023 season. WDRA members will also have an opportunity to qualify for the Sportsman Drag Racing Series Championships through winning one of the WDRA Bracket Finals events. Participants that plan to compete at a WDRA member track in 2023 can begin registration for the Sportsman Drag Racing Series on January 1st. Additional details and a program flyer will be posted on the WDRA Facebook page and at www.racewdra.com in the coming weeks.

The mission statement of the WDRA is to provide value as a sanctioning body to racers and facilities through process modernization, unparalleled service and value driven partnerships.


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A "quarter million" sure sounds a lot bigger than $200,000, doesn't it?

And considering that a "quarter million" = $250,000, not the advertised $200,000, seems like something got lost in the process... like $50,000.


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weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
A "quarter million" sure sounds a lot bigger than $200,000, doesn't it?

And considering that a "quarter million" = $250,000, not the advertised $200,000, seems like something got lost in the process... like $50,000.


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the $200,000 in payout plus bonus prizes


Besides...you're not getting the whole $200k...that's going to get split up. The whole pot will be worth $200k. A lot of bracket races advertise the total payout for everything, and not just the singular winner pay.

The $50k will be in gifts...similar to IHRA giving away designer rings, roller dragsters, Aruba vacations, customized golf carts, etc.

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Originally Posted by sixpakdodge
Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
A "quarter million" sure sounds a lot bigger than $200,000, doesn't it?

And considering that a "quarter million" = $250,000, not the advertised $200,000, seems like something got lost in the process... like $50,000.


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the $200,000 in payout plus bonus prizes


Besides...you're not getting the whole $200k...that's going to get split up. The whole pot will be worth $200k. A lot of bracket races advertise the total payout for everything, and not just the singular winner pay.

The $50k will be in gifts...similar to IHRA giving away designer rings, roller dragsters, Aruba vacations, customized golf carts, etc.





Sssshhhhhh. Let us be amused for awhile. Lol 😂


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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Springfield, IL – Today the World Drag Racing Alliance (WDRA) announced the creation of the quarter-million dollar Sportsman Drag Racing Series for bracket racers competing at WDRA member tracks in 2023.

WDRA member tracks ... will crown track champions in eligible classes. Each eligible track champion will advance to the Sportsman Drag Racing Series World Championships in October and compete for their share of the $200,000 in payout plus bonus prizes.

... the WDRA will also operate the WDRA Bracket Finals events at the end of the 2023 season. WDRA members will also have an opportunity to qualify for the Sportsman Drag Racing Series Championships through winning one of the WDRA Bracket Finals events.

This is a good start. They are making something like the IHRA/NHRA Summit Super Series.
But that sounds like a lot of cars entering into the "Quarter-million dollar" event. All track champions plus all division bracket finals winners.
Of course, depending where the final event is held (east or west coast, etc.), not all track champions will travel that far (but many will).


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Originally Posted by 440Jim
Looks like both the North Carolina tracks I race at joined, and Maryland International too.

Maryland International Raceway in Maryland,
Farmington Dragway and Piedmont Dragway in North Carolina.

I wonder what is going to happen with competition licenses? i.e. will WDRA have different classes (ET license A,B,C,D,E), will they require paying for a new license,
And the big if

If I let my IHRA class license expire, and 3 years later WDRA falls apart, will I have to retake the track tests to get my IHRA license back?
I just did my track tests (timeslips, signatures) for my upgrade to Class C (5.50 1/8 mile, 8.00 1/4 mile) and got a new IHRA card.

OK, it sounds like WDRA will just let all NHRA/IHRA competition licenses be used, at least the first year (2023). So racers can just keep paying NHRA/IHRA to keep their license current, even if they only race at WDRA events.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
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Motor Mile Dragway in Radford, Va just announced that they will go from IHRA to WRDA sanction on Jan 1, 2023.

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