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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr] #2945543
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Cant beat Induction Solutions. The plates the sell now are billet, so no more delicate brass spray bars. Sat night special might be good for you. THey are a little pricey, BUT they are flowed when you get them and they offer some great tech support. I would call them. Honestly unless your car is super heavy or has the wrong converter in it, i would say your going to be in the 10's with nitrous. Have you ran it at all now on motor? and what converter is in it?


Thanks Tony! It's run 12.70's for the previous owner but I haven't personally had it at the track yet and don't know if there was much left in it. Taking it to Roadkill nights for the street race next month and if it is ok after that will probably run it at the track in September on motor only to make sure the tune is clean before doing anything else with it. It's got 4.30 gears and I believe a 9.5" ultimate converter that flashes to ~4500. It's a super heavy car tho, 4200# without a driver. I'm a little worried since it's so heavy it's going to blow through the converter on the spray, but I guess there is only one way to find out.

Sounds like Induction Solutions is the way to go, especially with Monte gone. Good to know that a wet kit could be turned into a dual stage dry kit if needed too!


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Blusmbl] #2945549
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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
Originally Posted by n20mstr
Cant beat Induction Solutions. The plates the sell now are billet, so no more delicate brass spray bars. Sat night special might be good for you. THey are a little pricey, BUT they are flowed when you get them and they offer some great tech support. I would call them. Honestly unless your car is super heavy or has the wrong converter in it, i would say your going to be in the 10's with nitrous. Have you ran it at all now on motor? and what converter is in it?


Thanks Tony! It's run 12.70's for the previous owner but I haven't personally had it at the track yet and don't know if there was much left in it. Taking it to Roadkill nights for the street race next month and if it is ok after that will probably run it at the track in September on motor only to make sure the tune is clean before doing anything else with it. It's got 4.30 gears and I believe a 9.5" ultimate converter that flashes to ~4500. It's a super heavy car tho, 4200# without a driver. I'm a little worried since it's so heavy it's going to blow through the converter on the spray, but I guess there is only one way to find out.

Sounds like Induction Solutions is the way to go, especially with Monte gone. Good to know that a wet kit could be turned into a dual stage dry kit if needed too!



Sounds good. The best thing you can do, call Induction solutions, Get some type of playback tach OR gopro/phone to record the tach. That tach playback you can get with Montgomery at Ultimate to really dial in the converter. Good luck!


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr] #2945712
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Sounds good. The best thing you can do, call Induction solutions, Get some type of playback tach OR gopro/phone to record the tach. That tach playback you can get with Montgomery at Ultimate to really dial in the converter. Good luck!


I'll definitely give Steve a call, thank you. Will definitely plan on some type of method to record the tach too, at least before it gets fuel injected. Appreciate it!


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Blusmbl] #2974807
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Roots blower delema.....

So every time I call someone for advice on which roots blower for a 528 Hemi, the recommendations get more expensive and bigger. So like most on here, I do not have an unlimited budget. In fact, I am not even sure its adequate, but that just part of the game I guess.

So I figured a 528 Hemi to keep it as small as possible with a 4.5 bore block. Was thinking of doing an 8-71, maybe a 10-71 and twin throttle body sniper.....

Well that escalated to a full blown Holley Dominator system and two sets of injectors with a bird catcher...Not cheap...But one of the things I want to do is a 5 gallon front mounted tank on E85 and rear fuel cell on 93 and switch pulleys for race or street.

And the other thing is the recommended blower keeps getting bigger....The guy at Alky Digger recommended a 14-71...I was like wow! No way that will clear the cowl and the windshield..

If I had the budget I wanted, I would put a Whipple 8.3L on it, but those are $9100 just for the squirrel box.

So what does Moparts crowd recommend for a street/ strip blower? Cause if this keeps up, I might just do NA for now with 9:1 compression and the blower cam in it.

This is a picture of the previous owners 472 Hemi with a 6-71 on it.....Note how tight to the windshield it is. I am going to move the engine forward some before I am done.

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Dragula] #2979193
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Whats the intention of the build. Why street? You already have a street car. You should try going fast, it's fun

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Dragula] #2982605
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How much power do you want to make on pump fuel?
How much mechanical compression ratio does the motor have?
how about intercooling it for more boost to make more power when speeding the blower up? work scope up


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp] #2983826
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Originally Posted by FastmOp
Whats the intention of the build. Why street? You already have a street car. You should try going fast, it's fun


9.48 isn't fast? My Duster has gone that quick on a mild pass in the 1/4 at 140mph, and 6.002 at 115.4mph in the 1/8th....

Looks like my build answers were just made for me this week. Been waiting on payment for my car, before purchasing a new block and such, and they raised the price $1k to almost $6k for an iron block...I have decided to go 400 stroker with an 8-71 MFI on methanol for now....and try not to blow it up. We will see how far we can push it. I can build the entire short block for less than the price of a Hemi block and we know how to make them live at 800hp, so we will see. I am going to gather up all my parts and take them down to the shop.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Dragula] #2983842
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If I was you I would use a good 10:71 blower instead of the smaller 8:71 so you can spin it (the10:71) slower to make the same amount of boost with the smaller blower at the same engine RPM which will lower the intake air temps allowing more compressed air volume into the motor, more air, more power devil work scope


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Cab_Burge] #2984111
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
If I was you I would use a good 10:71 blower instead of the smaller 8:71 so you can spin it (the10:71) slower to make the same amount of boost with the smaller blower at the same engine RPM which will lower the intake air temps allowing more compressed air volume into the motor, more air, more power devil work scope

iagree


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Dragula] #2985753
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Originally Posted by FastmOp
Whats the intention of the build. Why street? You already have a street car. You should try going fast, it's fun


9.48 isn't fast? My Duster has gone that quick on a mild pass in the 1/4 at 140mph, and 6.002 at 115.4mph in the 1/8th....

Looks like my build answers were just made for me this week. Been waiting on payment for my car, before purchasing a new block and such, and they raised the price $1k to almost $6k for an iron block...I have decided to go 400 stroker with an 8-71 MFI on methanol for now....and try not to blow it up. We will see how far we can push it. I can build the entire short block for less than the price of a Hemi block and we know how to make them live at 800hp, so we will see. I am going to gather up all my parts and take them down to the shop.


Not really in this day and age. A blower car running 5.90 ain't that impressive anymore.

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Originally Posted by FastmOp
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Not really in this day and age. A blower car running 5.90 ain't that impressive anymore.
iagree
My 2850 lb. with me in it E85 single four barrel N/A S/P car runs 8.86s in the 1/4 mile at 150.+ MPH shruggy
I'm sure there is a little more left in it as I have not tried to max tune it yet devil


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HNY to all on power adders.

That was gonna be the name of my new Mopar.
Plymouth Adder but not as catchy as Dodge Viper lol.

So after reading some of this thread the 528 hemi blower motor build looks doubtful now?

So how’s about a twin turbo then... fan fan

I also have the low comp 9 to 1 4.500 bore pistons.

Is twin turbo pipe work a ‘bridge too far’?

Best wishes from Limey John

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Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero, thanx Horace!

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It's not bad if you can fabricate or got a buddy.

Whats the goal , pics of car? This place needs action

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Gtxxjon] #3020264
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Originally Posted by Gtxxjon
HNY to all on power adders.

That was gonna be the name of my new Mopar.
Plymouth Adder but not as catchy as Dodge Viper lol.

So after reading some of this thread the 528 hemi blower motor build looks doubtful now?

So how’s about a twin turbo then... fan fan

I also have the low comp 9 to 1 4.500 bore pistons.

Is twin turbo pipe work a ‘bridge too far’?

Best wishes from Limey John


No, actually, its still in play....I bought a 4.5" bore Hemi block, and the car is out of the chassis shop, but racing season is coming, and I am shifting my attention back to my Duster. I have a 512/400 going together for that car, and then I will get back to this one. But a 528-540 Hemi with a roots blower is the plan...

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Dragula] #3078377
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Random nitrous question- on plate kits, is there any benefit to changing the line length from the N20 solenoid to the plate? I stole GY3's idea and mounted my solenoids at the back of the motor so they're less conspicuous, but with the spray bars on the front and rear of the plate it means the line lengths are different. The fuel side has a short run, it's only about 5" of hard line from the solenoid to the plate, but the nitrous side goes under the intake, it's a 15" long braided line.

I also have a window switch calibrated in the progressive, minimum rpm was 3500. I am thinking of bumping that down to 3000. Would there be any ET benefit of switching the plate orientation so the nitrous side is the short run, and 5" instead of 15"?

Thanks,
Nick


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Blusmbl] #3078643
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Shorter line on the nitrous side will make it "hit" harder. Before progressives, some people used to tune w/ different length lines to adjust the launch somewhat. Never done it myself, but heard about it.
Since you have a progressive, I don't think you'd see much by changing it.


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Thanks- I'm guessing it isn't worth much either, but figured I'd ask. At the track I didn't have any ramp in the progressive, but I did use it for Roadkill Nights, although this year the surface was so good I probably didn't need it there either!


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