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Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: crackedback] #3067226
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Originally Posted by crackedback
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That makes sense, i think. but also you would have fish food as well so it would be just a skeleton. I can understand that.

i wonder if they are going to try and solve who these people are?

thanks for the info


Doubt it gets any priority, since the water level is of such major concern.


What is the nexus between the water level and a coroner performing their job?


Just saying the water level should be more important with the Authorities right now, since it's critically close to closing down power generation.
As is usually the case: they're be reactive rather then proactive. Should be making plans for when/if that occurs.
Nexus? Do you think people are going to be upset if a 50+ yr cold case isn't solved, or when there are drastic power cut backs imposed across southwest?

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: PhillyRag] #3067255
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I can tell you from first hand experience that closure for the families is priceless.

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: PhillyRag] #3067307
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by crackedback
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by Kiddart
That makes sense, i think. but also you would have fish food as well so it would be just a skeleton. I can understand that.

i wonder if they are going to try and solve who these people are?

thanks for the info


Doubt it gets any priority, since the water level is of such major concern.


What is the nexus between the water level and a coroner performing their job?


Just saying the water level should be more important with the Authorities right now, since it's critically close to closing down power generation.
As is usually the case: they're be reactive rather then proactive. Should be making plans for when/if that occurs.
Nexus? Do you think people are going to be upset if a 50+ yr cold case isn't solved, or when there are drastic power cut backs imposed across southwest?


Coroner responsibilities has ZERO to do with the issues you describe regarding water level and power generation.

If my Mom disappeared 50 years ago without a trace, yeah I'd like to know.

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Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: crackedback] #3067481
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It’s really quite fascinating….. we drove up Pearce Ferry Road back in July. Basically the only place you can launch a boat is at Hemenway Harbor near Boulder City. We went by Temple Bar and South Cove which are eerily empty as the ramps that have been extended many times now look like runways. But it was over 15 years ago that Overton Beach Marina and the Echo Bay Marina were moved further away to stay in the water. Sad part is that a lot of southern Utah used some of those launches and they are no more. If you stored your boat in Meadeview AZ you’re now faced with a 75+ mile drive to get on Mead at Hemenway or below Hoover at Willow Beach. Hemenway is only 2 lanes now and I’ve seen reports of up to a 4hr wait. This has pushed a lot of Vegas boaters to make the 75 one way trek to Cottonwood Cove on Lake Mohave (lake below Mead). We used to frequent Lake Mohave and some of our favorite remote spots were north of us but we’ve noted the increase in people on the water in the last year. We planned on keeping our boat a couple more years, but the way people are throwing money around we threw it on marketplace and sold it within a day. I always wanted to tow it up to South Bay on Mead but we missed that window of opportunity. I will say I doubt there’s a more perfect place to have had a boat where we live.

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: J_BODY] #3067484
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Most of the "barrel people" were mob related. One of the first guys they found was apparently whacked by the guy Pesci played in Casino.

Here is some mead footage from a couple weeks ago


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Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: PhillyRag] #3067499
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag

Just saying the water level should be more important with the Authorities right now, since it's critically close to closing down power generation.
As is usually the case: they're be reactive rather then proactive. Should be making plans for when/if that occurs.
Nexus? Do you think people are going to be upset if a 50+ yr cold case isn't solved, or when there are drastic power cut backs imposed across southwest?


iagree Solve the water / looming power issue then worry about ID'ing the remains found. Hey maybe Hoffa will surface (no pun intended) but doubtful twocents

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: PhillyRag] #3067549
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by crackedback
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by Kiddart
That makes sense, i think. but also you would have fish food as well so it would be just a skeleton. I can understand that.

i wonder if they are going to try and solve who these people are?

thanks for the info


Doubt it gets any priority, since the water level is of such major concern.


What is the nexus between the water level and a coroner performing their job?


Just saying the water level should be more important with the Authorities right now, since it's critically close to closing down power generation.
As is usually the case: they're be reactive rather then proactive. Should be making plans for when/if that occurs.
Nexus? Do you think people are going to be upset if a 50+ yr cold case isn't solved, or when there are drastic power cut backs imposed across southwest?


Agree, dealing with water level has nothing to do with the coroner.

Frankly, fixing this problem has more to do with convincing CA, AZ, NV, NM, CO, and Mexico to cut consumption and should have started 50 years ago. Growing water hungry crops in CA and AZ where they would do better in places with more natural rainfall would be a smarter approach. But, you are going to have a hard time convincing families who have generations of usage that will refuse to change that they need to take one for the team. NV actually has done more than any of the other states in the CO River compact to cut back on water usage and recycling.

On the bodies, I thought one was IDed as a jet skier lost recently and one was IDed this week as a boater who drowned in '58. The two in barrels are going to be a bit tougher to figure

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: TC@HP2] #3067556
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Water level should be up some after those last couple rain storms.

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: mopars4ever] #3067562
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Dessert going back to dessert, nature fixing itself. There was a reason it was dessert before, MAN CANT CHANGE CLIMATE!

Re: A Lake Mead question/curiosity [Re: TJP] #3067819
08/14/22 11:57 AM
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Eventually water from the Missouri River drainage basin needs to be transported to the Colorado River drainage basin.

I have been amusing myself thinking about how to do this with the least wait time, and for the least money.

Boring a tunnel or burying a pipeline would take forever on legal and water/property rights alone.

My current thought is a large water treatment plant should be built on one of the southern tributaries of the Missouri basin that lies overtop an underground aquifer that extends even further southward, hopefully hundreds of miles. Highly filtered and UV light purified water from Missouri basin should be pumped down into the first aquifer. Geologists should locate a spot where this first aquifer lies overtop a second underground aquifer that extends even further south, hopefully all the way to the Colorado basin’s northern most tributary. A second pumping station should be built there. Tunnels or pumping stations should then get the water flowing into the Colorado basin.

The first, second (and maybe third) pumping stations must have a strong electrical grid tie. However they do not need to pump at a steady rate - they should consume electricity during periods of low demand, such as late night, or increase pumping when unsteady power generators like windmills are experiencing high winds.

A federal tax should be levied on Colorado water users to fund this.
The tax rate should be high enough to pay States in the Missouri River Basin large $ grants to improve their overall water and sewage systems

This is all pretty simple pre-existing engineering, except for the core drilling to confirm aquifers.

Since it is all simple,
IT WILL NEVER GET DONE

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