60 ft.
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08/08/22 03:56 PM
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hi, ran my stocker cordoba at atco this past weekend with junkyard motor in SST, whats a good sixty ft? i was .190 best 4365 lbs. 13.64 98 mph
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/08/22 04:11 PM
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Wallace says @ 98MPH, 1.88 60", 13.52 1/4. So you aren't too far off. Closer than a lot of folks.
MPH gives you an idea of horsepower to weight, as long as your gearing is not out of whack. Then you can fill in the blanks of what the potential is.
Plenty of places in a Stocker to free up parasitic losses and make the most of available HP. It's all about the budget.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/08/22 08:30 PM
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running t/q launching with 2 step , i can hold car on line at 3000 rpm, carb set up by nat record holder,
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/09/22 09:41 AM
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4:56 maybe 4500-5500 stall, haven't checked yet T/A 8" converter made for car
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Re: 60 ft.
[Re: 440lebaron]
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08/09/22 12:21 PM
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I see you asking questions other places, the right places. Good for you.
Maybe I've missed it. What gear is in the car? 2.45 low? What does it RPM in the lights currently?
I would be careful spending a bunch of money, on parts that won't be usable, sorting and improving the current combination, until you get enough power in the car to make it run a decent number for whatever class you are shooting for. Doesn't have to be legal. Just has to make similar steam. Then your work will be relevant.
NVM, I see 4.56. 100MPH on a 30" tire with that gear looks like 5400-5500 in the lights, depending on the converter. Right?
Last edited by CMcAllister; 08/09/22 12:24 PM.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/09/22 02:45 PM
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You’re getting your grade points....... that’s good. Mission accomplished.
Frankly, I wouldn’t change anything until the correct legal engine is in the car.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/09/22 03:01 PM
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The good stockers cars in your class probably 60 foot in the low 1.40 to high 3.80 My message is to focus on the first 60 Ft. and let the rest of the track take care of itself The converter, chassis and suspension and fuel system will be where you can make your most and best gains The car needs to be perfect and better than all the other cars out there from the front bumper bolts to the rear bumper bolts to set the records and win class Piece of cake, right: whistling: Good luck on this venture: up:
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/09/22 04:45 PM
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You’re getting your grade points....... that’s good. Mission accomplished.
Frankly, I wouldn’t change anything until the correct legal engine is in the car. This. Doesn't need to be a record setter. But it needs to get under the index, the further the better.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/09/22 08:47 PM
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5600 finish line 30" tire, will not be spending money on this motor , just shaking down car and getting grade points, very laid back having fun dont care if we miss a time trial go home when the call 1st round or stay and watch the show
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Re: 60 ft.
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5600 finish line 30" tire Looks like about 12% slip........ which seems about right for an 8” converter, 4300lbs, running in that rpm range(it would slip less if the car were geared for the engine to run 6500-7000).
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/10/22 12:51 PM
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5600 finish line 30" tire, will not be spending money on this motor , just shaking down car and getting grade points, very laid back having fun dont care if we miss a time trial go home when the call 1st round or stay and watch the show I agree on the grade points if you want to run the big show. IIRC, Super Street grade points only allowed you to run national events in Super Street where it was included in the lineup. That may have changed. May want to check on that. Too many guys were getting grade points with their bracket car and showing up with the Super Stocker. Points races are a mighty expensive TnT.
Last edited by CMcAllister; 08/10/22 12:54 PM.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/10/22 04:53 PM
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5600 finish line 30" tire, will not be spending money on this motor , just shaking down car and getting grade points, very laid back having fun dont care if we miss a time trial go home when the call 1st round or stay and watch the show I agree on the grade points if you want to run the big show. IIRC, Super Street grade points only allowed you to run national events in Super Street where it was included in the lineup. That may have changed. May want to check on that. Too many guys were getting grade points with their bracket car and showing up with the Super Stocker. Points races are a mighty expensive TnT. You need to have S/ST grade points to run S/ST at a National, but can use your S/ST grade points to run other classes at a National. Many D1 S/ST racers run in Super Gas at the National Events.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/11/22 10:51 AM
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MY goal is to run Indy next year in STK with new motor, should have motor this fall and TNT at atco, there open till dec. need at least 5 grade points and .4 under index (12.70)
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/11/22 11:39 AM
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MY goal is to run Indy next year in STK with new motor, should have motor this fall and TNT at atco, there open till dec. need at least 5 grade points and .4 under index (12.70) Are you saying you need to be able to run .4 under the index to get into, qualify for that race or you want to run .4 under to qualify better? You will need to be able to outrun any other car in your class to be able to get to the next round Good luck, be patient
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/11/22 12:11 PM
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Since Stock filled up so quick this year, I’m expecting the amount one has to run under the index will be back to what it was prior to the pandemic. The cut off point for qualifying in Stock the last two years at the US Nationals has been well below(slower) what was typical in the past..........when many cars running .8xx under the index didn’t get in.
In 2019 you had to go .867 under or quicker to get in........ which was more typical for that event.
The last couple of years it’s been in the .400 under range.
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Re: 60 ft.
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08/11/22 01:11 PM
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I'm expecting to run 12.20-12.30 480 hp i know I'm going to be in trouble if I get a heads-up round, there running 11.90 12.00 ($3000 valve job) if I can't go .4-.6 under we will go to Bristol or charlotte, 14 hour ride for 2 time trials we are based in the northeast, this is somewhat of a bucket list
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Re: 60 ft.
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Most national events don’t have the maximum sized field of cars(128), so they end up being “all run”, with qualifying just setting up the pairings/ladder. But Indy basically always has more than 128 people show up........ so, if you’re not quick enough to be one of the top 128....... you’re a spectator.
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