Odd HVAC problem SOLVED
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07/19/22 05:22 AM
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My kids just bought a house with a Lennox 4 ton heat pump . With our record heat wave, 110 today, the outside unit keeps shutting down. The compressor and fan go off at the same time. It’s a thermal protection device, I’m sure, shutting down the entire unit. After we cooled it down, it starts right up. The problem is, the fan turns the opposite direction from what I’ve ever seen. It pulls the air in from the top and blows it out the bottom. I’ve never seen that before. It’s the original fan motor so there is no purple and yellow wires to switch the rotation. Maybe this is a Lennox thing?
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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07/19/22 01:09 PM
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Blow out the condensation drain line!
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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07/19/22 02:13 PM
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Unlike a regular air unit a heat pump runs 1 way for heat and the opposite for air so it may be running in right direction. Heat pumps have a refrigerant reversing valve to control whether or not the unit is in heating mode or cooling mode. The fan and compressor do not change rotation direction.
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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07/19/22 08:24 PM
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Have you checked to see if the A coil inside the house is icing?
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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Well, I just kept at it and finally found the issue. My very experienced counter guy at the hvac supply house had never hear of this and neither had Another friend that has does ac work for years. This was a dual capacitor 70/10 that checked perfect. The next house next door built at the same time in 2017 with the exact same unit, had all the exact original components and the fan ran the correct way and blows the air up. We cleaned the coils and the motor was labeled with CCW rotation but stil ran clockwise. That is when I noticed that the wires on the capacitor was wrong. The common wire from the compressor was swapped with the herm term on the capacitor. I’m surprised it has run this long. No wonder the compressor was getting hot and shutting down. Sure enough, we googled “Lennox fan running backward” and came up with a guy in the exact same situation. Old Dave must have made several mistakes at the factory! Lol. Now it’s got clean coils and might survive the 110 degree days for the next few weeks. Man this heat is really making my attitude bad.
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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07/20/22 08:20 AM
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My Lennox unit crapped out the day before leaving for Carlisle. I called the original installer (1994) and they were not available so I called a Mopar friend who works in the industry. He checked it and it was totally out of freon! R22 unit and said that the Gubmint rules state that if it is 25% or less then they cannot refill it, so a new unit was installed when I was at the show. $3800 later for a 2 ton unit and everything is fine...  BTW, R22 is $200/lb now! 
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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Unlike a regular air unit a heat pump runs 1 way for heat and the opposite for air so it may be running in right direction. Heat pumps have a refrigerant reversing valve to control whether or not the unit is in heating mode or cooling mode. The fan and compressor do not change rotation direction. Thanks good info.
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Re: Odd HVAC problem
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07/20/22 11:56 AM
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BTW, R22 is $200/lb now! I don't have any R22 units left but I do have about 20 lbs of R22 left........... I bought a jug of R410A in 2018. $90 some dollars. Bought one last week $460.
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