Re: Brake bias and caliper BORE size.
[Re: Kern Dog]
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07/15/22 10:48 PM
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If you were closer I'd just have you drive my Coronet so you could see what you think. I can tell you that my Coronet stops better than my Toyota 4Runner which has factory power 4 wheel disc brakes. I can exit the freeway at 80 mph in the Coronet and it will immediately pull down to 35 or 25 as I approach stopped traffic. With the 4Runner I have to be careful to leave plenty of stopping distance when slowing down from anything over 70 mph.
My Coronet has 13 inch front rotors with Porsche calipers. I added a rear disc kit a few years back but I think the factory drum brakes that I had on there before worked better than the disc brakes. I had the big station wagon drums out back and they really worked.
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Re: Brake bias and caliper BORE size.
[Re: BDW]
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07/17/22 01:53 PM
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and speaking of pads, how do the ceramic types compare to the semi-metallic of back in the day, as compared to "red stuff", "yellow stuff", etc that EBC offers ? this is in relation to the small rotor size needed to fit 15" wheels. i have read all the descriptive attributes of the above mentioned pads, as well as what is offered by Hawk and other race type pad manufacturers, but i am hesitant to pull the plug on a set of pads, only to find out they may or may not, work to my expectations.
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Re: Brake bias and caliper BORE size.
[Re: BDW]
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07/17/22 04:41 PM
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I think the newer cars can use smaller calipers because of the larger rotors. Can't underestimate the leverage adder.
Just think of how easy it is to break a bolt free after you slide a pipe on the rachet to extend it..... Excellent point. Could it be that simple?
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Re: Brake bias and caliper BORE size.
[Re: Kern Dog]
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07/18/22 03:23 PM
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I think the newer cars can use smaller calipers because of the larger rotors. Can't underestimate the leverage adder.
Just think of how easy it is to break a bolt free after you slide a pipe on the rachet to extend it..... Excellent point. Could it be that simple? ABS probably has an effect as well. While I can no longer remember the details I do recall an article Eberg wrote comparing the brakes on his Green Brick vs sports cars of the time it was written. Can't seem to google it though. I don;t recall it being real fancy though it might have has one of AndyF's Viper caliper setups on it.
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Re: Brake bias, caliper BORE size and PAD recomendations...
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07/18/22 08:18 PM
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How much does that Duster weigh? How much does your Charger weigh? Bigger cars need more brakes(bigger contact area) to stop as good as lighter smaller cars do, basic physics
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Re: Brake bias and caliper BORE size.
[Re: moparx]
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07/20/22 11:16 AM
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and speaking of pads, how do the ceramic types compare to the semi-metallic of back in the day, as compared to "red stuff", "yellow stuff", etc that EBC offers ? this is in relation to the small rotor size needed to fit 15" wheels. i have read all the descriptive attributes of the above mentioned pads, as well as what is offered by Hawk and other race type pad manufacturers, but i am hesitant to pull the plug on a set of pads, only to find out they may or may not, work to my expectations. This pad part of the thread seems to be getting lost and may need a thread of its own...
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