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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: Cab_Burge] #3059435
07/15/22 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The older Mr. Gasket and Moroso battery cutoff switches weren't rated very high on much current they can safely handle, I wore one out and learned that they are rated less than 100 amps puke
There are better ones available, I bought one rated at 250 Amps and it worked great so can you find one to buy when you do a search scope
Sorry for no links or company names: blush:


The Moroso 74100 is no good. 20A continuous, 125A surge. The 74101 is the one to use, 175A continuous, 1000A surge,

Make sure the switch has silver contacts, which I believe the 74101 does. The Littelfuse/Cole Hersee 2484-16 is also a silver contact switch and is 175A rated continuous and intermittence rated 800A at 6VDC-36VDC, 15 On, 5 Minutes Off. Probably the one Moroso sells as the 74101.


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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: CMcAllister] #3059448
07/15/22 03:32 PM
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These seem reasonably priced. A 43BC morse cable 6ft about $78.
A 30 series Morse cable has #10-32 ends
A 40 series Morse cable has 1/4-28 ends.

https://www.go2marine.com/Pro-X-43BC-Replacement-Control-Cables?quantity=1&length=1499

Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: 440Jim] #3059616
07/16/22 09:16 AM
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That's what i was thinking...as long as the mechanism out the back is 5/16 were good. I was just wondering if anyone got questioned over it.

Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: gregsdart] #3059627
07/16/22 10:18 AM
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Some people have used an air/CO2 with a Bimba cylinder to launch the parachute and that could also be connected to the shutoff turning it off at the same time.I will stick with the Ford relay and button to cut power and the main thing is to have it in a good place to de activate the power.


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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: Clanton] #3059649
07/16/22 11:51 AM
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Damn, you guys have me considering adding one inside my car now. I have also done the dreaded sit down, strap in , hit the ignition switch and nothing.... have to unstrap , get out, turn it on at the rear and try again. lol.


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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3059669
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The only time I would normally turn off the rear battery shut off switch was in the winter when the car sat in the trailer from October to April shruggy


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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: Cab_Burge] #3059687
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Ford starter relays are for intermittent duty use. Solenoids used for a battery disconnect, that also carry the load of the car while running, need to be for constant duty use. They may look the same but they are not the same.

We use constant duty solenoids for control of "ignition on" circuits, typically 80 -100A rated, but they aren't designed to carry the in rush of a starter motor.

There are battery disconnectors/solenoids/relays made for this and designed to carry higher amperage and be in constant duty use.. But you can't buy them at an auto parts for $15.


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250A continuous, intermittent well over 1000A

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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: CMcAllister] #3059702
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Ford starter relays are for intermittent duty use. Solenoids used for a battery disconnect, that also carry the load of the car while running, need to be for constant duty use. They may look the same but they are not the same.

We use constant duty solenoids for control of "ignition on" circuits, typically 80 -100A rated, but they aren't designed to carry the in rush of a starter motor.

There are battery disconnectors/solenoids/relays made for this and designed to carry higher amperage and be in constant duty use.. But you can't buy them at an auto parts for $15.


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250A continuous, intermittent well over 1000A

There might be motorhome solenoids with high enough ratings, if that is what a guy wants to use. Overall it might be a lighter system by a bit.

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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: gregsdart] #3059942
07/17/22 02:43 PM
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CM, i couldn't make out the complete tag on the solenoid you showed.
any chance you have a pic that shows the whole tag ? [TIA !]
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Re: Help design a driver accessible master power cutoff! [Re: Clanton] #3060671
07/19/22 07:24 PM
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I got the push switch from amazon and it is well made,no slop and I was thinking of mounting it on my shifter[PPP]

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