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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Mr T2U] #3059489
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not to nitpick. but i think that cassette player is a day 2 mod and not a factory install..
if it was a console car originally, most likely. the player should be mounted on the console not the floor.


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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Mr T2U] #3059492
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
Originally Posted by 2fast4yourBrain
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It'd be worth busting the trunk lock (can get replacements easily) to get that trunk open..



just take the back seat out. then take a 7/16, i THINK, socket with some LONG extensions, or crawl thru, and unbolt the 2 trunk latch bolts from the body. the trunk will pop open without problems.
once removed take out lock cylinder and have key made.
i have done this a LOT of times without problem.


iagree Any good locksmith can handle this....and for less than $50


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Reminds me of my old 70 U Code Auto Challenger.
I bought mine from the original owners. They owned the Dodge dealership in Central CA and never sold the car, kept it in the family.

I hope someone buys it here and brings it back to its glory!

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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Matt M] #3059505
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No cassette player in a 1970 car. That contraption is home brewed.

Bust out the trunk lock? What, are we still in high school?

Look at the runt on the fender edge, so much for 35-40K

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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: NANKET] #3059516
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Originally Posted by NANKET
No cassette player in a 1970 car. That contraption is home brewed.

Bust out the trunk lock? What, are we still in high school?

Look at the rust on the fender edge, so much for 35-40K



Yes. But notice battery cap is off. And tons of mouse droppings and urine. A battery vapor can make a mess real quick. And this things been sitting for years

Gotta look at it or more pictures

Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: larrymopar360] #3059522
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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
Two big questions right now IMO: Why was it parked and is it a 383 or 440?


My friend was only 20 (in 1970) when he purchased the car from the Chrysler dealer in New Castle, IN. He drove it for a couple years, windshield got smashed, he parked it in his garage. He had just gotten married in '70 and just started a family. The car is one of those "I'll get to it one day" and just never did. So it sits. It is for sure a 440. U code in VIN. I saw the pad by the distributor. 440 for sure. He doesn't know why the call outs on the hood are 383. That's the way it came new. As for the tape deck, I don't know. I've never seen one in a '70 before. I'm hoping to be able to get it out and to my shop so I can get it on a lift. Maybe get it cleaned up some, ck numbers etc. Wanting to help him sell it. Thanks for looking and the interest. Jeff

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I see too many issues I want to know more about to give a range. If you can get it to run off a gas can that will help the cause quite a bit. Looks like there could be rust going on in back and under the car, mold and mice. Just lots to chew on. If he needs it gone quick, just do what you can to sort out what is there and what is not there, and list on eBay. Good luck.


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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Mr T2U] #3059576
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Question: was the radiator support supposed to be painted black in 1970?

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How much of a factor can the mold issue be in its value?


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Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3059646
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
How much of a factor can the mold issue be in its value?

Substantial depending on how well it's established. The odor is one factor as it will penetrate and lodge itself in porous materials 9 seat foam etc.) On the less porous surfaces (vinyl etc.) it can stain. It may have also gotten into the ventilation system gauges etc.
I'm always one to anticipate the worst and hope for the best. beer

Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: NANKET] #3059648
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Originally Posted by NANKET
Look at the runt on the fender edge, so much for 35-40K


I would not go near that car without underside pic's. IF one wants the $$ they will have to put the effort forth to get them IMO.
Does he even have the ignition /door keys? twocents

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Originally Posted by NANKET
No cassette player in a 1970 car. That contraption is home brewed.

Bust out the trunk lock? What, are we still in high school?

Look at the runt on the fender edge, so much for 35-40K



So why don’t you tell us what it worth now that you have more pictures?

Re: Original 1970 Challenger RT, worth? [Re: Mr T2U] #3059707
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
Originally Posted by 2fast4yourBrain
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It'd be worth busting the trunk lock (can get replacements easily) to get that trunk open..



just take the back seat out. then take a 7/16, i THINK, socket with some LONG extensions, or crawl thru, and unbolt the 2 trunk latch bolts from the body. the trunk will pop open without problems.
once removed take out lock cylinder and have key made.
i have done this a LOT of times without problem.


If Challenger's don't have a lock rod cover like Cudas do {don't know } then a very long screwdriver can be slipped into the lock rod slot on the backside of the latch & easley popped open.

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Originally Posted by 71GTX471
Originally Posted by Mr T2U
Originally Posted by 2fast4yourBrain
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It'd be worth busting the trunk lock (can get replacements easily) to get that trunk open..



just take the back seat out. then take a 7/16, i THINK, socket with some LONG extensions, or crawl thru, and unbolt the 2 trunk latch bolts from the body. the trunk will pop open without problems.
once removed take out lock cylinder and have key made.
i have done this a LOT of times without problem.


If Challenger's don't have a lock rod cover like Cudas do {don't know } then a very long screwdriver can be slipped into the lock rod slot on the backside of the latch & easily popped open.


NO. not a screwdriver into the lock slot. you just unbolt the latch from the bracket it's bolted to. remove 2 bolts and the trunk pops open. it's really easy to do,
there is nothing outside of the trunk latch so it's really easy to access with several long extensions attached together, or possibly a 3' long 3/8" extension that i use to unbolt the upper bolts on trans from the engine.
challengers have a small rod attached to the back of the lock cylinder that slides into a turning slot on the latch. on cuda's the lock is near the tail light and a rod clips to a lever or pawl that's on the latch itself.

i have done this a LOT on theft recoveries i bought at auction. this is easy to do.

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Years ago I taped a flat screwdriver to a broomstick and opened the one on my 69 B body. Piece of cake.


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That Challenger is really interesting. To me (and my computer) it looks like B7 blue metallic, NOT B5... and from what that crusty fender tags shows...it looks to be that color. My brother and I once owned an original paint B5 blue w/blue interior '70 Challenger 318 car. Ours was a lighter shade blue than this car...I think it makes it even more desirable if it's an original B7 car. In any case, it's going to take quite alot of elbow grease (obviously) to get it presentable and running. Great car though...good luck to the owner. up


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Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
Years ago I taped a flat screwdriver to a broomstick and opened the one on my 69 B body. Piece of cake.


This. I accidentally locked the keys in the trunk of my Challenger once and opened it the same way. Take back seat out and done.




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You might find the bit that connects the lock cylinder to the latch keeps you from sticking a screwdriver in and turning it so keep plan B to unbolt the latch in mind.


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Originally Posted by EV2RTSE
Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
Years ago I taped a flat screwdriver to a broomstick and opened the one on my 69 B body. Piece of cake.


This. I accidentally locked the keys in the trunk of my Challenger once and opened it the same way. Take back seat out and done.


HMM, never tried that, Does it work with the locked cylinder and bar in place ?

I've always remove the lock cylinder retaining clip from inside the trunk. Cylinder out, long flat blade screwdriver and it's open with no damage. I just ASSumed the lock wouldn't allow it to turn shruggy

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Using the latch "after" the key basically bypasses the lock.
The blade might fill the space you need for the screwdriver but often there's just enough engagement to work.
If not, I believe the 2 bolts are 1/2" - they are on B-bodies.
NEVER punch a lock cylinder out - it destroys the tabs & panel surface around the lock cylinder.

Looking at the interior, I'd expect it's been home to mice & whatever; gonna take a fair amount of cleanup.
Could even be nests in the heater box.
I'd pull the spark plugs and get some lubrication in there, let it soak, and see if it'll turn over with a bar.
As it sits, my initial thoughts on value were optimistic; it'll take some time & effort to check out thoroughly for an accurate value.
Hopefully there's not much rust.
Cleaned up & operable, it could be a nice find.

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